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What Would Reagan Think? Hed hope that the party he led could be restored to the principles and policies that drew him to it.
thebulwark ^ | 01/09/2020 | Mark Weinberg

Posted on 01/10/2020 6:55:03 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

As a Reagan Republican, I am an unlikely and probably unwelcome source of ideas about how a Democrat can win the presidency in 2020.

But precisely because I am a Reagan Republican, I do not support Donald Trump and do not wish to see him elected to a second term. I worked for President Reagan for many years: initially in his 1980 campaign, then in the White House, and finally in his post-presidency office in Los Angeles. I knew him well. And I am absolutely certain he would be appalled by how Donald Trump conducts himself in the presidency.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Who the hell is this author. Must be a Bill Kristol wanna be

Trump is closer to Reagan and first principles than any yob I’ve seen since ReagAn


41 posted on 01/10/2020 7:33:34 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: dfwgator

[[[And Bush moved the needle right back.]]]

Bush I ushered in the globalist era into overdrive.


42 posted on 01/10/2020 7:36:05 AM PST by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's a highway to hell.)
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To: dfwgator

well, Bush didn’t prolong the Cold War, and he gave us Thomas.

Not saying all is forgiven, but, I think to say that he gave all of Reagan’s achievements back is an exaggeration. What were the income tax rates before Reagan pushed the tax cut? Like in the 70s or something? And he got that through with Tip O Neil as speaker.

Yes Bush raised taxes, and gave us Clinton, but he didn’t raise them that high......


43 posted on 01/10/2020 7:36:12 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Truthoverpower

great post....so illuminating.

I think something else that is similar between the two great presidents. They were both primarily entertainers/businessmen/deliverers of messages. Politics came to them late in life and only because they loved America.

Moreover, just like Trump is truly New York, Reagan is truly California (well at least California of his day)....yet both of them also channel and project what is uniquely American. That’s pretty amazing, if you step back and think about it.


44 posted on 01/10/2020 7:41:14 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

And look how Democrats of Reagan’s day conducted themselves compared to today’s Democrats.

Say what you will about Tip O’Neill, but despite their political differences, he and Reagan were cordial towards each other.


45 posted on 01/10/2020 7:42:58 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Just another lying liberal.


46 posted on 01/10/2020 7:43:39 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: ConservativeDude

On the Bush thing - many here are lamenting that bringing him on was detrimental and it should have been someone else......and all that talk, while in hind-sight looks 100% accurate, doesn’t take into account the time.

Others rightly confirm that the Establishment detested Reagan...….well, Bush was the leader so concessions needed to be made. Like some then like some of us now, myself included with Trump as I was a Cruz guy, needed to see the man for who he was, not who the Establishment wanted us to see. I would say with Trump that tilts much more toward the MSM as far as messing with perception.

You bring up good points. No man is infallible. Reagan has his faults (O’Connor, not responding to Beirut, ‘86 Amnesty) and Trump has his (spending, budgets, delivery) but overall both men had/have one goal, to make America the shining city on the hill.

If this weenie can’t see, not sure I care. He’s not a Conservative anyway.


47 posted on 01/10/2020 7:47:42 AM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: dfwgator

well said, well said, well said!


48 posted on 01/10/2020 7:49:23 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Reagan Disciple

spot on

Bush was also (let’s be honest) very dangerous

He was a longtime CIA man. Probably had at least some fingerprints on some ops in his lifetime that were not really very nice.....some of which we would probably like, but some we most certainly would not.

But to your point....the times have to be taken into consideration.

What is amazing is that Reagan and Trump see the time soooooo clearly, and are able to rise above the immediate fray and look across the horizon and continue making stratetig and tactical moves to get closer to the shining city on the hill.....

(Like ending the Cold War, like destroying Isis, like significantly reducing the nuclear threat, like making North Korea stand down...and now Iran?)


49 posted on 01/10/2020 7:53:09 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Reagan Disciple; Pollster1; MrEdd

Cubanadians are not natural born citizens.


50 posted on 01/10/2020 8:11:06 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Make no mistake, the common man, the man in the street, loved RR, while the GOP establishment and media despised him, much like Trump. It wasn’t till the second half of his second term that the establishment came over to him.


51 posted on 01/10/2020 8:20:05 AM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Style vs. substance.

If it works, don’t fix it.


52 posted on 01/10/2020 8:24:16 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Love Reagan but there is a new sheriff in town and he’s Perfect for today!


53 posted on 01/10/2020 8:57:10 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

DITTO THAT!


54 posted on 01/10/2020 8:58:05 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I just think it is hilarious that this particular group of anti-Trump conservatives chose the name “Bulwark”, which can so easily be mocked like “Bulsht”


55 posted on 01/10/2020 9:29:22 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Concern troll Mark Weinberg, Partisan Media Shill, hoping we'll believe that he's a Reagan Republican instead of some ass-kissing opportunist and pro-Deep-State liar.

56 posted on 01/10/2020 9:34:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Anyone who has to tell us he’s a Republican isn’t one...

RINO...


57 posted on 01/10/2020 9:43:01 AM PST by GOPJ (Iran's Mulllahs, thugs and terrorists want to thank MSNBC, CNN, and WP for standing with them...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I think that you are 100% wrong....Reagan would marvel at what this president has accomplished, and considering his opponents, would marvel at his stamina...I loved Reagan but think that Trump is every bit his equal!!


58 posted on 01/10/2020 10:18:18 AM PST by terycarl (Notre Dame was God's way of pointing out that France has fallen from His favor....)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

No one was a bigger fan of Reagan than I.....I’m not a big trump guy mainly because of his pre political life....

With that said if it was a choice between reagan and trump.....I would easily chose trump


59 posted on 01/10/2020 10:48:18 AM PST by SPRINK (G)
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To: dfwgator; ConservativeDude

“Say what you will about Tip O’Neill, but despite their political differences, he and Reagan were cordial towards each other.”

Reagan believed in “sabers at dawn, cocktails at dusk.”
He regularly hosted gatherings where members of both parties gathered in the White House after hours for drinks and small talk. Tip O’Neill and the old school democrats responded to this approach.
Probably how Reagan got most of his agenda through.

Todays dems would never step foot in the same room with ANY Republican president, much less enjoy a drink and chat.
Different times.
Different men.


60 posted on 01/10/2020 11:32:04 AM PST by oldvirginian (I know not what course others may take but as for me Give me Liberty or give me death)
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