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1 posted on 12/19/2019 9:15:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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So Kim Climent’s Prophecy is still valid then... Interesting.


2 posted on 12/19/2019 9:17:58 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!)
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trump impeachment
3 posted on 12/19/2019 9:18:09 PM PST by Bon mots
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um even bloomberg news is admitting that Trump is NOT impeached yet:

[[Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate

According to the Constitution, impeachment is a process, not a vote.]]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-12-19/trump-impeachment-delay-could-be-serious-problem-for-democrats

Noah Feldman, a harvard law proff says the same thing

“If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all,“ @NoahRFeldman writes. https://t.co/urzhneXlo8


4 posted on 12/19/2019 9:23:54 PM PST by Bob434
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Excellent article from Mr. McCarthy. He is clear about the law. Just one problem. The “polls are edging in Trump’s favor.” Rather, the polls are avalanching in Trump’s favor. Pelosi is a joke. The Democrats are dead. And the Americans are enjoying the land of plenty from the Creator.


5 posted on 12/19/2019 9:36:55 PM PST by Falconspeed
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No


6 posted on 12/19/2019 9:37:03 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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For all those, including Democrat members of Congress that do not know the United States Constitution:
Article 1. Section 2:

The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

(this dose not describe what elected officials by title)

Article 1. Section 3:

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

There is no discussion or allowance for members of congress to be present or have managers present to present the case. It is not spelled out. That is just how the first impeachments were conducted by the rules of the bodies of the Congress and Senate. Each body sets up their own rules, but those rules are subservient to the rule of law in the constitution. Thus the Senate can conduct the trial when ever they want and without members of congress even present. The vote by congress to impeach has been completed and must now be acted on.

PERIOD end of civics lesson!


7 posted on 12/19/2019 9:39:25 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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I think Trump will get a lot of mileage out of "Non-Impeachmas!" 🎄
8 posted on 12/19/2019 9:40:12 PM PST by GnuThere
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A case of Schrodinger’s Impeachment?


9 posted on 12/19/2019 9:41:11 PM PST by Stosh
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But many scholars take the position that the Constitution requires a trial if there has been an impeachment. If such a trial cannot properly occur unless and until articles of impeachment have been transferred from the House to the Senate, and Speaker Pelosi won’t transfer them, has President Trump actually been impeached?

No. Until Articles of Impeachment are officially transferred (delivered and accepted) by the House to the Senate, impeachment has not occurred...only posturing!

This is supremely important. It is either done properly & officially, or it never happened.

12 posted on 12/19/2019 9:51:19 PM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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Well lookee here. Even Andy McCarthy agrees that under the current situation, Trump has NOT been impeached.

Impeachment requires more than just a vote. It has to be presented to the Senate. As long as Nazi Pelosi holds up the delivery, no one can claim that Trump is the third president to be impeached.


13 posted on 12/19/2019 9:54:41 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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yes voted and recorded, even televised. Trump and his advisors say he is impeached. hundreds of sources reported today he is the third impeached president, including Breitbart, Washington Times, OAN and other conservative sites. Limbaugh, hannity, Elder, prager. look it up and get thousands of sources all saying impeached. One guy from Harvard comes out of the woodwork and those here who should know better after the 3 expert professors nadler had on the witness list. But heyl, whatever Harvard says. Enjoy your delusion.


15 posted on 12/19/2019 9:56:53 PM PST by olesigh
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This makes at least three threads on this issue that I am aware of. McCarthy lays it out well. If they cannot present their case, there cannot be a trial—simple logic. We shall see who has the upper hand. As for now, this retromingent, demented, and senile evil bitch is playing games with the constitution and America. She needs a punch to that stretched face and her head. She is one pure worthless human who only cares about power, nothing else.


17 posted on 12/19/2019 10:00:21 PM PST by Fungi
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no


24 posted on 12/19/2019 10:17:35 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Some of the criticism I’ve heard raises more questions:

If the House of Representatives is 1/2 of Congress (and the “lower” chamber at that), how can there be “Obstruction of Congress”? In the President’s defense, he can negate Congressional Obstruction by cooperating with the other chamber. It would seem that the charge would be “Obstruction of the House of Representatives”, and that the Obstruction charge passed would require defiance of both chambers to constitute “Congress”.

Second, it has been said that by the actions of this House, that Presidents serve only at the pleasure of the House, as constituted, at any given time. By her acts to withhold the transfer of charges as passed by a majority of the House to the Senate, the Speaker has positioned herself as the sole arbiter of whether or not a President can maintain his office. Her actions seem Tyrannical on their face, and precisely what the framers wanted to avoid.

Coffee


25 posted on 12/19/2019 10:19:42 PM PST by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (No tagline provided...)
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If such a trial cannot properly occur unless and until articles of impeachment have been transferred from the House to the Senate, and Speaker Pelosi won’t transfer them, has President Trump actually been impeached?

Two can play this game. Impeachment doesn't happen until Pelosi transfers them? Then it doesn't happen until the Senate accepts them, because in neither case can it be said they were delivered.,

28 posted on 12/19/2019 10:37:43 PM PST by LibWhacker
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It makes perfect sense. It is a process and if the house doesn’t want to complete the process they are saying that they are stopping the process.


29 posted on 12/19/2019 10:42:22 PM PST by DouglasKC
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I still believe the scorned wench known as Nasty Pelousy vowed revenge when Trump embarrassed her in front her family and subordinates during the long government shutdown by cancelling their all expenses paid military flight to far away countries during the Christmas holidays.

He was right to do it but she will never get over her butthurt over it. Too bad so sad for her. Grow up beyotch and do your job or go away.

All the dems in the House have proven is they are unfit to govern a playground which is where juveniles like them are normally found.


32 posted on 12/19/2019 10:49:14 PM PST by Boomer ('Democrat' is now synonymous with 'corrupt')
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33 posted on 12/19/2019 10:50:15 PM PST by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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If someone is indicted and the prosecution never goes to court, then it counts for nothing.


38 posted on 12/19/2019 11:04:22 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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If Democrats had any brains at all...they would get rid of Nancy Pelosi...tomorrow morning!!! They are dying by their own hand...politically!!!


43 posted on 12/19/2019 11:29:17 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forev er!!!)
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