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Impeachment is regime suicide
Spectator.US ^ | 10-1-2019 | Daniel McCarthy

Posted on 10/02/2019 5:09:36 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

The ruling class still believes in a consensus that doesn’t exist. Their legitimacy is vanishing

The Democratic party and the chattering classes are playing a dangerous game with impeachment.

Their are two modern precedents — Nixon’s resignation before his probable impeachment in 1974 and Bill Clinton’s actual impeachment in 1998. But neither is comparable to the contemplated impeachment of Donald Trump. All impeachments are partisan, but this one is in doubly bad faith: it has no chance of succeeding in removing Trump, and it has no chance of acquitting him in a way that will strengthen faith in the country’s institutions.

The only outcome possible is to confirm for Democrats and Republicans alike the idea that 2020 is a regime-change moment, for reasons that go far beyond Trump.

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With Trump, everything is different. The 2016 election was a referendum on the regime itself. Trump resurrected the populist attacks on the country’s political and economic establishment that Buchanan and Perot had battle-tested in the 1990s.

Trump was no mere conventional Republican who happened to beat Hillary Clinton. He was a completely unconventional Republican who first beat the party’s own ideological standard-bearers during the primaries, in the course of which he often said things that no Republican had said for a generation or more.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.us ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: impeachment; kag; maga; trump; trumpukraine; ukraine
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Impeachment Inquiry is nowhere in the constitution.

That's been my understanding and based on that fact, "impeachment inquiry" is nothing more than Pelosi trying to keep the AOC wing of the Democrat Party satisfied that something's being done about PDJT and gin up the media propaganda machine against the President.

Both will backfire bigly on her in short order.

21 posted on 10/02/2019 6:00:59 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Sir Napsalot; All

If a poll was ever conducted with the question “Is our two party system working” ? The response would be 90% negative. What is being employed by This so called coup d’ etat against Trump should not be viewed as against Trump but an impeachment of our constitution. .

Everything the man has attempted to get done has been blocked by a radical group composed mainly of members of the democrat party in top leadership legislative and judicial branches of government who view the constitution as an obstacle to their concepts of government intrusion on individual liberty guaranteed by it as they advance their policies.


22 posted on 10/02/2019 6:02:45 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting fobills are nr the record hoping some might read and pass around)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I don’t know about you folks, but I’m not going to let the Left steal my vote that so many men fought and died to protect. I also aim to raise $1,000,000 for Trump.


23 posted on 10/02/2019 6:04:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

24 posted on 10/02/2019 6:05:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“it has no chance of acquitting him in a way that will strengthen faith in the country’s institutions.”

I disagree with that and also think that the analysis is shallow because it doesn’t recognize the influence of proven facts.

If voters perceive, based on evidence they see, that Trump got a bad rap then they will support Trump’s reelection by a wide margin, and that will weaken the proposition that we are a divided nation and strengthen faith in the country’s institutions.


25 posted on 10/02/2019 6:14:14 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Real Cynic No More

Not to diminish the rest of your comment, but your mention of an IBM Selectric sure brought back a flood of memories. What an amazing piece of machinery/technology that was! I still wish I could get a keyboard for my PC that was built like one of those Selectrics instead of the cheap plastic crap that is out today.

At 52, I suspect I’m probably one of the last generation who actually took typing classes and learned on a Selectric back in high school. Actually took it in summer school as I couldn’t fit it into my schedule during the year. As I’ve been in IT since college, it sure has been a blessing to know how to type efficiently.

Sorry for the thread distraction...


26 posted on 10/02/2019 6:20:46 AM PDT by chrisser
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To: Sir Napsalot

Is that allowed here? :)


27 posted on 10/02/2019 6:23:42 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: usconservative

Its more about donations then anything. They are not getting the money that they usually see. Their Cant-idates are not appealing beyond the fringe crazies of their party.

Impeachment virtue signals to the leftists to donate money because we are doing something! Even thought they are still doing nothing but expelling hot air.


28 posted on 10/02/2019 6:30:32 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: cymbeline

You are dreaming.


29 posted on 10/02/2019 6:30:50 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Sir Napsalot

The article has some sense, in that it identifies the action as challenging the existing order.

It completely mischaracterizes Watergate. Watergate was where the current establishment flexed its muscles and established its authority. 65-75 was where the Mediacracy took control.

The US population is now working hard to throw off the yoke of the Mediacracy, which has ruled for 50 years.


30 posted on 10/02/2019 6:31:04 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: chrisser

:-) you’re just a wee youngster!


31 posted on 10/02/2019 6:31:23 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I agree when you think about 2016 Trump & Bernie were both the anti-establishment candidates that appealed to totally different ends of the spectrum. Proof that people are feed up with the Govt not representing and work for the people, rather working for itself. Truly a crying shame


32 posted on 10/02/2019 6:32:42 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

The machine to raise Republican money is immense and unrelenting and likely without precedent.

I get perhaps two mailings per week from various Republican/Trump entities. I responded to an excellent TV ad asking me to sign up on my phone. I did. This morning I got three text messages advising a sucint message and asking for money.

I suspect that the prospect of impeachment will drive the Republican fund raising engine to turbocharged power and the take will be huge.


33 posted on 10/02/2019 6:34:29 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Real Cynic No More

You are spot on about the electorate. When I was working a Trump HQ on Saturdays in summer/fall 2016 in a small Ohio town, we would help get people registered to vote. Every week end someone would come in, some people who were very old, registering to vote for the fist time ever to vote for Trump because the populist message resonated w/ them as they would say the never heard that from a candidate before


34 posted on 10/02/2019 6:36:15 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks Sir Napsalot. Gosh, it's almost as if the Demagogic Party *wants* to destroy the Constitution.

35 posted on 10/02/2019 6:37:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: usconservative

But, if you consider this paragraph carefully … Flip it over. I wonder if President Trump realizes that he isn’t necessarily the King here. Perhaps it is more accurate that he (and the deplorables) are the ones who have struck at the King (the establishment, DS, whatever you prefer to call it).

The question I would ask is - has he struck hard enough, and is he willing to deliver the KB? Because if he isn’t, he (and the rest of us) would do well to remember the consequences of failure.


36 posted on 10/02/2019 6:48:43 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I stopped reeding when you missuesd Their (there) in the early part of the article.


37 posted on 10/02/2019 6:52:38 AM PDT by HChampagne (Cruz supporter but I will support and vote for Trump.)
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To: usconservative
Best read posted on FR in quite some time, IMO.

Exceptional. His perspective is what a lot of the voters who stayed home in 2016 are thinking. The Dims do not see the train that is about to run over them.

Impeachment is their last desperate hope to change the outcome of 2016, and it's going to be an epic backfire.

38 posted on 10/02/2019 6:53:54 AM PDT by Wizdum (The Dems are not afraid a wall won't work, the Dems are TERRIFIED a wall WILL work.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Very good article.


39 posted on 10/02/2019 6:55:57 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
All impeachments are partisan, but this one is in doubly bad faith: it has no chance of succeeding in removing Trump, and it has no chance of acquitting him in a way that will strengthen faith in the country’s institutions.

It's got a REAL good chance of ending with a bunch of Uniparty hacks dangling from DC cherry trees.

40 posted on 10/02/2019 6:57:59 AM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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