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To: BroJoeK

>> God’s Word says not one word about science as we understand it.

You are remarkably unlearned. The Bible is loaded with science.

>>Sure, it’s hypothetically possible that God created plants somewhere before He created the stars we can see, but so far we’ve found no evidence of it.

Who is we? Scientists have found no evidence for the creation process. There are boatloads of speculations, but no evidence

>>That puts such ideas in the realm of scientific speculation.

That is exactly the way it is. Astronomer and astrophysicists have no clue how or when the universe was formed.

Dan


122 posted on 08/10/2019 10:26:44 AM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata
Kalamata: "You are remarkably unlearned.
The Bible is loaded with science."

No, the words in 1 Timothy 6:20 which King James translated as "science so-called" are better translated "falsely called knowledge" and refer to the Greek "gnosis", meaning a false knowledge of the divine.
It has nothing to do with our understandings of science.

Elsewhere the Bible says nothing, nada, about what we understand as modern science.

Kalamata: "Who is we?
Scientists have found no evidence for the creation process.
There are boatloads of speculations, but no evidence"

Sure, scientific speculations on the origins of life are just that, speculations, at best "hypotheses", though none are today falsifiable.
Your speaker at the link you posted complained that these explanations are being presented in the media and schools as "facts" when they are nothing of the sort.
If he's correct, then it's a valid point.

But it remains a fact that nothing in the Bible speaks directly to our understanding of science.

Kalamata: "That is exactly the way it is.
Astronomer and astrophysicists have no clue how or when the universe was formed."

They have tons & tons of "clues" -- meaning confirmed observations = facts -- from which they've formed the best explanations available.
These explanations cover both the "how" and "when", but indeed in this sense you are 100% correct: they have no clues as to "who" and "why".

By definition, such questions are beyond the scope of natural-science.

141 posted on 08/10/2019 3:08:35 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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