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Military eyes 16-year-olds as ranks and candidates dwindle
The Washington Times ^ | July 18, 2019 | Ben Wolfgang

Posted on 07/21/2019 8:27:59 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper

As the Army, Navy and other services contend with a thriving economy and a directive to expand their ranks, there is a growing debate over whether the military should consider lowering the minimum enlistment age from 17 to 16. More than a dozen countries, including the United Kingdom, already have adopted the policy.

Critics say the idea is deeply flawed and presents a host of societal problems, but supporters argue that the Pentagon needs to think outside the box if it wants to continually overcome one of the toughest recruiting environments in decades.

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I'm not convinced that lowering the enlistment age to 16 is a good idea. I joined the Army right after I turned age 17 (a long time ago). While the experience matured me greatly over the next few years I also recall that 24 year old NCOs seemed like father figures. /chuckle

Also, per the article link below, the Marine Corps is considering going the opposite direction - at least for Infantry units.

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/07/31/go-four-before-grunt-the-controversial-idea-posed-by-the-head-of-mattis-task-force/

As we have a large contingent of US military veterans who are FReepers, I would be interested in everyone's thoughts about lowering the age of enlistment down to 16.

1 posted on 07/21/2019 8:27:59 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper
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Accepting recruits at 16 means dropping the diploma/GED requirement.
2 posted on 07/21/2019 8:31:16 AM PDT by fso301
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Just in terms of the acknowledgement that a 16 year old can aspire to being a man as opposed to the many democrat options pop culture pushes, it’s a good idea.


3 posted on 07/21/2019 8:33:39 AM PDT by Track9
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Agreed. But the problem is there are too many Democrat social pushes in the military too


4 posted on 07/21/2019 8:35:47 AM PDT by lesko
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There must be a better way. Maybe modernizing i.e. automating clerical and supply tasks could free up personal.


5 posted on 07/21/2019 8:36:55 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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Can’t get in with flat feet, can’t get in with tattoos on your hands, can’t get in with bad teeth, can’t get in with a history of broken bones, can’t get in with an undescended testicle, can’t get in with a GED, I could go on but I think the point has been made.

I tried for years to get into the military but they look for excuses to not let people in. I’m not a drug user and have no criminal record. Their excuse was I was 6 pounds over their weight limit.

So I lost the weight and went back in a few weeks.

Then their excuse was I can’t get in with a GED and need 15 college credits. For infantry. These manpower problems are largely of their own making.


6 posted on 07/21/2019 8:37:04 AM PDT by This_Dude
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Want to increase volunteers? Stop teaching global communism in our public and Catholic schools.


7 posted on 07/21/2019 8:37:15 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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It’s a bit different now that homosexual rape is such a big problem in the military.


8 posted on 07/21/2019 8:37:26 AM PDT by Salman (The Democrat agenda in one word -- revenge.)
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Lord knows, going to the military to get a free sex change.


9 posted on 07/21/2019 8:38:11 AM PDT by Track9
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Sounds problematic. Base pay for a newly minted E1 is $9.70 per hour if I understand correctly (and please correct me if I don’t). Hard to compete when everyone is headed to $15/hr.


10 posted on 07/21/2019 8:39:41 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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Worst idea possible. High school grads are usually 18 so lowering the age also means lowering the level of intelligence. Most 16-year-olds don’t even know what they want for supper for crying out loud. With all the high technology used today in what possible position could they serve anyway? I found myself back in the 60’s surrounded by McNamara’s 100 Thousand. You old-timers know what happened there!

If the services can’t get quality recruits, start up the draft again.


11 posted on 07/21/2019 8:41:52 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist ( Be kind to your children. They will determine where you live when you get old.)
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So the first two years of military service will be spent getting recruits up to high school proficiency.


12 posted on 07/21/2019 8:42:08 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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The answer is mandatory National Service.

At age 18 EVERYONE goes with no exemptions for any but the most crippling of conditions such as confined to bed and hooked up to a respirator.

The best of these kids will be in the fighting end and the rest in support. Two full yrs and not a day less, long with bonuses offered to reenlist to those deserving.


13 posted on 07/21/2019 8:42:08 AM PDT by billyboy15
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Your average 16-year-old male these days is not as mature as the average one 50 years ago. I’d rather see a renewed focus on getting teens in shape, which would presumably make a significant chunk of those “17- to 24-year-olds who are ineligible to serve” eligible.


15 posted on 07/21/2019 8:42:38 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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It’s about disposable inncome. How much does a kid making $15 an hour in civilian life actually get to carry around after making rent and a car payment? Not much.


16 posted on 07/21/2019 8:44:18 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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Free food, clothing, medical care, tuition benefits, learning a skill you can use later that is more valued than any school in existence...

Roll that up against the minimum wage you posit and tell me which is a better value


17 posted on 07/21/2019 8:44:41 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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16 is too young (17 is almost too young).


18 posted on 07/21/2019 8:45:00 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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Geez, your story of trying to enlist is amazing!

I joined the AF in 1960 (Judge said join the Military or go to jail) along with a buddy. I didn’t have a HS diploma OR a GED. I did have a juvenile arrest record but was accepted AND got a Top Secret clearance needed for my work in Security and OSI.


19 posted on 07/21/2019 8:46:11 AM PDT by billyboy15
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Lowering the age limit isn’t going to solve the problem of queer, freak and feminist social engineering that’s infecting the military. No normal human who would otherwise serve and put their lives on the line wants to be subjected to that every day.


20 posted on 07/21/2019 8:46:51 AM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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