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To: Simon Foxx
You seem to have missed my point. There is no difference, any more than Red China has “embraced capitalism”. Fascism, as Mussolini proves by his rhetoric (all while in power as a fascist; take note of the years of those quotes) is merely part of the means to the same end.
These measures (leading to communism) of course will be different in different countries.

— Manifesto, chapter 2

It is impossible, of course, to carry out all these measures at once, but one will always bring others in its wake. Once the first radical attack on private property has been launched, the proletariat will find itself forced to go ever further, to concentrate increasingly in the hands of the state all capital, all agriculture, all transport, all trade. All the foregoing measures are directed to this end; and they will become practicable and feasible, capable of producing their centralizing effects to precisely the degree that the proletariat, through its labor, multiplies the country’s productive forces.

— The Principles of Communism
So fascism is merely a rebranding of communism, with the use of the aforementioned “different measures” to establish control. Mussolini’s “fascistic” goals of “true equality”, “social justice” and evident worldwide wealth redistribution are pure Marxist communism, along with his open belief in the nonexistence of God.
31 posted on 07/17/2019 8:37:01 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
Repectfully disagree. Rhetoric does not always equal reality. Franco was a fascist. But he was the farthest thing from a communist you can find. Mussollini indeed came from a leftist socialist background (and his rhetoric reflected it as he wanted to appeal to the left). But he was no commie (in terms of being anti-religion and anti-capitalism).

Suppression of political dissent is the one area where the commies and fascists were similar, however. Of that there is no doubt.

So if I accepted that I would have no political voice, would I rather live in a place that allowed me to make a living, worship in peace, and keep a significant portion of the fruits of my labor - or one that kept me working as basically a slave, persecuted me if I tried to worship, and kept me poor?

As I said - that's a no-brainer.

32 posted on 07/17/2019 9:18:16 AM PDT by Simon Foxx
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