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Admissions criteria should be judged by how well they predict graduation rates and college GPAs, not by the racial, gender, or socioeconomic mix they produce. I don't think SAT/ACT test scores alone should be used, because studies have shown that a combination of test scores and high school GPA better predicts college outcomes.

IQ is not evenly distributed by race or income, so neither are test scores. Reality does not go away because one ignores it.

1 posted on 06/23/2019 5:55:34 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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Obama would have never gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law if not for being black and having an Islamic name. He would have never been President of the Harvard Law Review either.

He was a “B” high school student. A white male would have zero chance with those grades.


37 posted on 06/23/2019 7:10:43 AM PDT by boycott
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If colleges accepted on merit maybe we wouldn’t have so many idiots in ‘the press’....


39 posted on 06/23/2019 7:16:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (The press whores for democrats... Biden with white supremists? Biden was with fellow democrats.)
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I have a large working vocabulary because my parents had a large working vocabulary. I think that if you grow up in a household with educated English-speaking parents you do have an advantage on the SAT/ACT that is not purely a function of intelligence, but also environment.

Hard work and dedication to purpose are the things that govern success in life, not Ivy League diplomas.


42 posted on 06/23/2019 7:20:57 AM PDT by babble-on
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Why are we the only country in the world willing to water down the educational opportunity of higher intelligence?


43 posted on 06/23/2019 7:23:41 AM PDT by Demanwideplan
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Is there a test to evaluate an individual’s common sense and critical thinking abilities?

Besides combat, that is.


44 posted on 06/23/2019 7:25:14 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (We live on a tax farm as free-range humans!)
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“Their answer: The most prestigious U.S. campuses would be wealthier, whiter and more male.”

IOW prospective students who are more qualified are being discriminated against on the basis of race, on the altar of diversity and sports titles. Admissions are being based on political value judgements and agendas rather than merit. I’m an old dinosaur stuck on the notion that real universities should be about research and high-end education rather than politics and semi-pro sports.

GPA is too subject to manipulation and inflation these days to be reliable, but could tell about relative work ethic.


51 posted on 06/23/2019 7:43:40 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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If Colleges were rated on student productivity and employment, most of them would close their doors.


58 posted on 06/23/2019 7:59:49 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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Their article proves systemic discrimination against men. That women wouldn’t be the majority on campus if men weren’t discriminated against from the very beginning.


61 posted on 06/23/2019 8:10:50 AM PDT by tbw2
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Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Hindu would top the list. Plain Whitey in the middle. America’s spoiled minority in last place.

Exams have shown that consistently for years.

We are no longer a meritocracy, so forget it.


62 posted on 06/23/2019 8:12:04 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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Sounds like the wealthier, white male is being discriminated against with his high scores in favor of “diversity”.


67 posted on 06/23/2019 8:15:50 AM PDT by battletank
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My impression was that they were going to do away with college testing and rely on grades and readiness experience. That SAT and other testing has been proven not to be good a picking university success.

Frankly, the USA “university for all” system is a racket. General book and expository learning was great for success in Thomas Jefferson’s time. It also helped employers pick capable young people out of the mix in the 1930s-80s.

In the digital age, if you’re gong to spend $50k to get your middle class kid started on a career, ged Ed at a university is not the best bang for your buck. (Exceptions in some professions where college is actual training.) One advantage right now in 2019 are the internships that require the kid be enrolled full time in a 4 year uni. My son is taking advantage of those. But another way todo the same thing is to try and network a few years earlier and get to know some people in your child’s desired industry. Then get them an unpaid internship in the biz, even fetching coffee, sweeping floors, running errands.

I just met a man yesterday who decided to go to college at 50. He got straight As. He was not distracted by beer or chicks. He went to learn specific things to help him in his work. And he could afford it himself.


70 posted on 06/23/2019 8:22:18 AM PDT by Yaelle
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The differences of SAT/IQ scores within races and genders is much greater than the differences of scores between races and genders.

Sometimes I wonder if I am racist or sexist, then I find myself happily working with ‘different’ people and realize it is because they are well mannered, knowledgeable, and rational (aka classy).

And it is also true that I often find myself frustrated and embarrassed working with my own race and gender. What I see at Walmart makes me want to wear a disguise.


72 posted on 06/23/2019 9:29:42 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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Illustrates how silly the notion of “white privelege”


74 posted on 06/23/2019 10:15:50 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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But then who would major in Women’s Studies, Gender Studies, Latino Studies, Black Studies, Diversity Studies, and all the other majors that don’t prepare students for the real world, leaving them with huge debts and their only hope for a government job.


76 posted on 06/23/2019 10:55:16 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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Well the diploma mills would be quite empty and most of the ignorant ba$tards coming out of high school would not qualify


89 posted on 06/23/2019 5:10:26 PM PDT by okie 54
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