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Former Top U.S. Vatican Official Says Pope, Cdl Wuerl are Enablers of McCarrick, Abusers' Mafia.
https://www.scribd.com/document/387040553/TESTIMONY-of-His-Excellency-Carlo-Maria-Vigano-Titular-Archbishop-of-Ulpiana-Apostolic-Nuncio#from_embed ^ | retired Papal Nuncio to the United States, Archbishop Carlo Vigano

Posted on 08/26/2018 12:10:00 AM PDT by dangus

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To: Hieronymus
If a priest breaks the sixth commandment, attempts to absolve the accomplice (and has the accomplice attempt to absolve him!) and then proceeds to celebrate Mass, that is quite sacrilegious enough in my books, though I do not know if it rises to the level of a chargeable offence under canon law.

Confession does not absolve if there is no actual repentance.

41 posted on 08/26/2018 5:12:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It rubs the rainbow on it's skin or it gets the diversity again!")
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To: M.K. Borders

I’m going with “homoclerical demonocracy scandal.”


42 posted on 08/26/2018 5:13:15 AM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: dangus; Admin Moderator

This should be in Breaking News. It has the potential to break the Communist / homosexual infiltration of US Catholic clergy. This story is at least as big as McCain’s death.


43 posted on 08/26/2018 5:16:04 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Claud

I’m not elated. The sodomafia is out in full force on social media defending the homoclerical demonocracy. They are tearing at the vitals of a 77 year-old man, Archbishop Vigano.

I pray he has documentation. And a bodyguard.


44 posted on 08/26/2018 5:16:49 AM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I wonder if you'll get any legitimate responses from your letter now.

I agree, I don't think this is referencing a "Black Mass" in the Hollywood sense. But that is the danger in such things as this....Satan lurks in the open nowadays. 100 years ago we were warned about modernity. Back then, entertainment and society marched to a generally upright zeitgeist...modernists were in the shadows. Now, they have a stranglehold and NORMAL PEOPLE are the weird ones. Nobody has to say a Black Mass in the dark today...you can do it on pay-per-view and make a few bucks while MSNBC does a flowery story about the whole thing.

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the malice and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls. Amen.

45 posted on 08/26/2018 5:16:55 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: MustKnowHistory
"The phrase “tragic moment for the church” appears in the first sentence, showing once again their first thoughts are for the church., the church as victim. Wow.

The Catholic church doesn't consider "the church" to be an organization in the sense that Protestants do. The RCC considers "the church" to be the entire mass of baptized Christians (even Protestants), including those living on earth now, and all others "elsewhere". Another phrase for it is "the Body of Christ".

46 posted on 08/26/2018 5:21:38 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: FreedomPoster
"This should be in Breaking News."

When I posted this last night, referencing the story (and translation of Vigano's document) to Lifesite News, I also tagged it as Breaking News.

When my posting "went live," it was indeed in the Breaking News section. Shortly thereafter it disappeared from Breaking News, though my posting remains down in the que.

Evidently, some mod disagreed with me (and also with you!) regarding the Breaking News aspect of this story.

It's going to be instructive to watch and to see if this story has legs. If it does not, if instead the howling mob in social media which is now stampeding anyone who gives credence to Vigano - if that mob prevails, we will know just how far, deep, and entrenched the gay mafia is within the Roman Church.

If, on the other hand, Vigano's cleansing of his conscience leads to similar challenges from among the ranks of the Roman shepherds, those men not yet ensnared in the compromises and corruption - well, as others have already said in the comments above, we're watching a humongous hinge in history beginning to turn right before our eyes.

47 posted on 08/26/2018 5:25:41 AM PDT by Brandybux (Oportet ministros manus lavare antequam latrinam relinquent.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Thanks for the clarification. This is why us non catholics are in difficult waters when we comment on this.


48 posted on 08/26/2018 5:26:10 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: dangus
What I don’t understand is the basis for his assertions for what he claims Pope Benedict did right.

I believe this pertains to Papa B's order that McCarrick have no active ministry but spend the rest of his live in prayer and penance.

49 posted on 08/26/2018 5:33:27 AM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: dangus

Well, he would have known what BXVI was doing. Benedict laicized something like 800 priests in countries all over the world. He also retired a huge number of Bishops who were involved in devious things. He had gotten McCarrick out and removed his ecclesiastical honors and had him in isolation, basically. Francis brought McCarrick back almost immediately upon getting rid of BXVI.


50 posted on 08/26/2018 5:38:52 AM PDT by livius
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To: momincombatboots
I will say, it is not natural for a man to remain unmarried, Paul specifically cautions men about that extreme lifestyle.

Our Lord was unmarried as was St Paul.

51 posted on 08/26/2018 5:41:11 AM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: PapaBear3625

While that is true, and frankly fundamentally more important, objectively it is more difficult to judge. IIRC there is no jurisdiction to absolve an accomplice accept in cases of death.


52 posted on 08/26/2018 5:47:33 AM PDT by Hieronymus ((It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: dangus
Strangely, the velvet mafia and their sycophants in the media, seems to be rather quiet about all this...

I see very little media coverage

53 posted on 08/26/2018 6:04:44 AM PDT by Popman ("GOD´S NOT LOOKING FOR PARTNERSHIP WITH US, BUT OWNERSHIP OF US")
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To: dangus

I grew up Catholic and tried to return. The one priest I confided in wanted badly to discuss sex and porn. I wouldn’t do it.

I think, contrary to the letter, that Christ has indeed abandoned the church and it is corrupt and sinful through and through.

Without fail, my friends who attended Catholic school with me, the boys, now men, have told me about being approached or molested by these priestly fiends. One of my friends, a respected businessman, just recently told me about being cornered by some high muckety muck “priest” in the administration at Notre Dame while he was a student there. One of my nephews, a former alter boy, has “come out” as gay. Another of my friends’ son has “come out”—also a former alter boy. Were they molested? We don’t know, but they sure could have been. A large number of boys who come out were molested as children. Don’t get me wrong, I have withheld any judgment of gay because I don’t have enough information to make an opinion and I don’t believe the garbage from what is said to be “Bible”.

The Catholic Church in my opinion, which I get is worth nothing, is destroyed. Nothing but a sex cult.

It is disgusting.


54 posted on 08/26/2018 6:07:18 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: dangus

This is the type of thing that may end up forcing Pope Francis to abdicate the Papacy.


55 posted on 08/26/2018 6:16:42 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: yldstrk
"....that Christ has indeed abandoned the church and it is corrupt and sinful through and through."

Except Christ specifically said that such would never happen. There have been parts of the Church that were corrupt and sinful throughout her history. And there have been parts that were faithful to Christ and His word.

56 posted on 08/26/2018 6:53:48 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: dangus

yes.


57 posted on 08/26/2018 7:07:40 AM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: MustKnowHistory
Do you know who the Church is?

It is all the Christifideles (Christ-faithful people) united around their still-faithful or their contrite-and-recovered bishops.

That includes those still in this world, and those in the world to come.

58 posted on 08/26/2018 7:18:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For peace within your gates, speak truth and judge with sound judgment." - Zechariah 8:16)
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To: Hieronymus
I believe i's a very serious delict in canon law, may involve excommunication latae sentenciae

I'm no canon lawyer (Laus tibi, Christe) but I will look it up when I have time.

59 posted on 08/26/2018 7:24:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For peace within your gates, speak truth and judge with sound judgment." - Zechariah 8:16)
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To: Claud
Exactly, Claud, I'm right there with you.

Keep praying because we aren't out of the woods yet, and Viganò could mysteriously catch cancer, if you know what I mean.

So pray and pray and fast and fast. I'm preaching to myself: I need to fast. Some of these fiends are not driven out except by prayer and fasting.

In the meantime:

Te Deum (click!)

NaNa Na Na, NaNa NaNa, Hey Hey Hey, Goodbye (click!!)

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Grant this, O lord.

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60 posted on 08/26/2018 7:46:32 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For peace within your gates, speak truth and judge with sound judgment." - Zechariah 8:16)
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