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South Africa farm seizures BEGIN: Chaos as first expropriation of white-owned farms starts
www.express.co.uk ^ | PUBLISHED: 09:41, Mon, Aug 20, 2018 | UPDATED: 11:23, Mon, Aug 20, 2018 | By Paul Withers

Posted on 08/20/2018 8:35:31 AM PDT by Red Badger

Johannesburg-based newspaper City Press reported owners Akkerland Boerdery wanted 200 million rand (£16.7m) for the land, but that the country’s government were willing to offer them just a tenth of that at 20 million rand (£1.67m).

A letter sent to the owners earlier this year had said: “Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5, 2018 at 10am in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm’s keys to the state.”

Akkerland Boerdery immediately took out an urgent injunction to prevent eviction until a court had ruled on the issue, but the Department of Rural Development and Land Affairs has refused the application.

Annelie Crosby, spokeswoman for the agricultural industry association AgriSA, told City Press: “What makes the Akkerland case unique is that they apparently were not given the opportunity to first dispute the claim in court, as the law requires.”

ANC spokesman ZiZi Kodwa refused to reveal details of the farms being targeted and has attempted to cal investor fears, adding the proposed seizures were “tied to addressing the injustices of the past”.

He told City Press: “Over time I think the markets as well as investors will appreciate that what we are doing is creating policy certainty and creating the conditions for future investment.”

Tensions among South Africa’s white farming community has been escalating since the election of Cyril Ramaphosa as President earlier the year, who committed his African National Congress (ANC) to land expropriation.

Last week, ANC chairman Gwede Mantashe sparked panic among the farming community when he said: “You shouldn’t own more than 25,000 acres of land.

“Therefore if you own more it should be taken without compensation.

“People who are privileged never give away privilege as a matter of a gift.

“And that is why we say, to give you the tools, revisit the constitution so that you have a legal tool to do it.”

A record number of white South African farmers have put their land up for sale amid fears the ruling party is considering confiscating properties bigger than 25,000 acres.

The government was accused of drawing up a list of almost 200 farms it allegedly wants to seize from white farmers, with AfriForum, a civil rights group representing the white Afrikaner minority, adding the document was being circulated by ministers as the ruling powers prepare to implement the policy.

It invited farmers to check if they were on it and urged them to make contact “so we can prepare a joint legal strategy”.

But the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform denied the list was real with spokeswoman Linda Page telling News24: “We don’t know where they got this from. There is no truth in this document.”

On Sunday, Afriforum CEO Ernest Roets confirmed that the two farms - Salaitna and Lukin - were the first two to be targeted.

He said: “So the debate about the authenticity of the list is settled then?

“We hope that the gravity of the state’s plans for expropriation is understood and that people will see through the dishonesty of the Department of Land Reform and Rural Development.

“We hope that the attempts to discredit the legitimacy of the list has now been proven to be malicious for good. We shouldn’t be misled by those who sing Kumbaya while the state is planning to expropriate property.”

AgriSA has labelled Afriforum’s decision to release the list as “irresponsible” and inflammatory” dying “cursory background research” showed several inaccuracies, including that a number of farmers were joint ventures co-owend by black people.

Earlier this month, cattle farmer Jo-an Engelbrecht told ABC that his farm just outside Johannesburg was now “worth zero”.

He said: “We had several auctions in the last two or three weeks cancelled because there was no people interested in buying the land.

“Why would you buy a farm to know the government’s going to take it?”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: africa; afrikaners; blackkk; blackmajorityrule; cyrilramaphosa; juliusmalema; safarmers; southafrica; white; whitefarming; zimbabwe
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To: Red Badger
Ain't socialism / communism / despotism / leftism Grand?

The absolute ignorance and stupidity of these people is just staggering. Africa is doomed to revert to "darkest" again (and not in the racial sense).

ZiZi Kodwa, ANC spokesman -- "Over time I think the markets as well as investors will appreciate that what we are doing is creating policy certainty and creating the conditions for future investment.”

Gwede Mantashe, ANC Chairman -- "You shouldn’t own more than 25,000 acres of land. Therefore if you own more it should be taken without compensation. People who are privileged never give away privilege as a matter of a gift."

What's worrisome and really scary is that is precisely what Bernie Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez-Cortez, Tom Perez, and about two-thirds of Democrat politicians think should happen here...as well as about two-thirds of Democrat voters.

41 posted on 08/20/2018 9:14:18 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: grania

Almost ALL the islands are like that now.


42 posted on 08/20/2018 9:14:20 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Pontiac

The Chinese say that at least three times in your life you should be ready to abandon everything and flee, and start over.

Trying to hold out for “fair value” will only mean you don’t get away at all.

Leave with whatever they will give you, and start over.


43 posted on 08/20/2018 9:15:05 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: j.argese

I was actually thinking mine the fields.


44 posted on 08/20/2018 9:15:34 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Red Badger
What makes the Akkerland case unique is that they apparently were not given the opportunity to first dispute the claim in court, as the law requires.

No, what makes that case unique is that the farm is big enough to catch some party boss's eye. And it won't be "unique" at all for very long.

45 posted on 08/20/2018 9:16:17 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Red Badger

So that the leftists are clear on this, avoiding nightmare scenarios like this is why the Founders enacted the Second Amendment. Perhaps it’s also the reason why the leftists are so eager to repeal it?


46 posted on 08/20/2018 9:16:40 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: tennmountainman
South Africans will be starving within a year or two.

Yep and the world should let them starve. Do nothing but prevent them from entering any country. They need to die off. I received this missive by email some time back. It's really pertinent to this situation.

Kevin Myers (born 30 March 1947) is an Irish journalist and writer. He writes for the Irish edition of the Sunday Times, having previously been a columnist for the Irish Independent and a former contributor to The Irish Times, where he wrote the "An Irishman's Diary" opinion column several times weekly. Until 2005, he wrote for the UK Sunday Telegraph. His articles criticize left-wing opinion and the "liberal consensus", sometimes incorporating hyperbole, sarcasm and parody.

This essay appeared in The Irish Independent:

Somalia is not a humanitarian disaster; it is an evolutionary disaster. The current drought is not the worst in 50 years, as the BBC and all the aid organizations claim.

It is nothing compared to the droughts in 1960/61 or 73/74. And there are continuing droughts every 5 years or so.

It's just that there are now four times the population; having been kept alive by famine relief, supplied by aid organizations, over the past 50 years.

So, of course, the effects of any drought now, is a famine. They cannot even feed themselves in a normal rainfall year.

Worst yet, the effects of these droughts, and poor nutrition in the first 3 years of the a child's life, have a lasting effect on the development of the infant brain, so that if they survive, they will never achieve a normal IQ .

Consequently, they are selectively breeding a population who cannot be educated, let alone one that is not being educated; a recipe for disaster

We are seeing this impact now, and it can only exacerbate, to the detriment of their neighbours, and their environment as well. This scenario can only end in an even worse disaster; with even worse suffering, for those benighted people, and their descendants.Eventually, some mechanism will intervene, be it war, disease or starvation.

So what do we do? Let them starve? What a dilemma for our Judeo/Christian/Islamic Ethos; as well as Hindu/Buddhist morality. And this is beginning to happen in Kenya, Ethiopia and other countries in Asia, like Pakistan. Is this the beginning of the end of civilization?

AFRICA is giving nothing to anyone outside Africa -- apart from AIDS and new diseases. Even as we see African states refusing to take action to restore something resembling civilization in Zimbabwe, the begging bowl for Ethiopia is being passed around to us out of Africa, yet again. It is nearly 25 years since the famous Feed The World campaign began in Ethiopia, and in that time Ethiopia's population has grown from 33.5 million to 78+ million today.

So, why on earth should I do anything to encourage further catastrophic demographic growth in that country? Where is the logic? There is none. Now they want to move to other countries to continue to breed and commit crime.

To be sure, there are two things saying that logic doesn't count. One is my conscience, and the other is the picture, yet again, of another wide-eyed child, yet again, gazing, yet again, at the camera, which yet again, captures the tragedy of children starving.

Sorry. My conscience has toured this territory on foot and financially. Unlike most of you, I have been to Ethiopia; like most of you, I have stumped up the loot to charities to stop starvation there. The wide-eyed boy-child we saved, 20 years or so ago, is now a low IQ, AK 47-bearing moron, siring children whenever the whim takes him and blaming the world because he is uneducated, poor and left behind. There is no doubt a good argument why we should prolong this predatory and dysfunctional economic, social and sexual system but I do not know what it is. There is, on the other hand, every reason not to write a column like this.

It will win no friends and will provoke the self-righteous wrath of, well, the self-righteous hand wringing, letter writing wrathful individuals; a species which never fails to contaminate almost every debate in Irish life with its sneers and its moral superiority. It will also probably enrage some of the finest men in Irish life, like John O'Shea, of Goal; and the Finucane brothers, men whom I admire enormously.

So be it. But, please, please, you self-righteously wrathful, spare me mention of our own Irish Famine, with this or that lazy analogy. There is no comparison! Within 20 years of the Famine, the Irish population was down by 30%. Over the equivalent period, thanks to western food, the Mercedes 10-wheel truck and the Lockheed Hercules plane, Ethiopia's population has more than doubled.

Alas, that wretched country is not alone in its madness. Somewhere, over the rainbow, lies Somalia, another fine land of violent, AK 47-toting, khat-chewing, girl-circumcising, permanently tumescent layabouts and housing pirates of the ocean. Indeed, we now have almost an entire continent of sexually hyperactive, illiterate indigents, with tens of millions of people who only survive because of help from the outside world or allowances by the semi-communist Governments they voted for, money supplied by borrowing it from the World Bank!

This dependency has not stimulated political prudence or common sense. Indeed, voodoo idiocy seems to be in the ascendant, with the president of South Africa being a firm believer in the efficacy of a little tap water on the post-coital penis as a sure preventative against AIDS infection. Needless to say, poverty, hunger and societal meltdown have not prevented idiotic wars involving Tigre, Uganda, Congo, Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea etcetera. Broad brush-strokes, to be sure. But broad brush-strokes are often the way that history paints its gaudier, if more decisive, chapters. Japan, China, Russia, Korea, Poland, Germany, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia in the 20th century have endured worse broad brush-strokes than almost any part of Africa. They are now -- one way or another -- virtually all giving aid to or investing in Africa, whereas Africa, with its vast Savannahs and its lush pastures, is giving almost nothing to anyone, apart from AIDS.

Meanwhile, Africa's peoples are outstripping their resources and causing catastrophic ecological degradation. By 2050, the population of Ethiopia will be 177 million; the equivalent of France, Germany and Benelux today, but located on the parched and increasingly Protein-free wastelands of the Great Rift Valley. So, how much sense does it make for us actively to increase the adult population of what is already a vastly over-populated, environmentally devastated and economically dependent country?

How much morality is there in saving an Ethiopian child from starvation today, for it to survive to a life of brutal circumcision, poverty, hunger, violence and sexual abuse, resulting in another half-dozen such wide-eyed children, with comparably jolly little lives ahead of them?

Of course, it might make you feel better, which is a prime reason for so much charity!

But that is not good enough.

For self-serving generosity has been one of the curses of Africa. It has sustained political systems which would otherwise have collapsed.

It prolonged the Eritrean-Ethiopian war by nearly a decade.

It is inspiring Bill Gates' programme to rid the continent of malaria, when, in the almost complete absence of personal self-discipline, that disease is one of the most efficacious forms of population-control now operating. If his programme is successful, tens of millions of children who would otherwise have died in infancy will survive to adulthood, he boasts.

Oh good: then what? I know, let them all come here (to Ireland). Germany and the rest of Europe is already inundated and there are literally millions queuing up who want a hand out, taking in refugees because you feel sorry for them will end in the demise of those countries taking part.

47 posted on 08/20/2018 9:19:23 AM PDT by Boomer (Beware The Obsessed Leftist Pit Bull Haters on FR. Same as Gun Grabbers.)
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To: MarMema

There are about 4.5 million of them.


48 posted on 08/20/2018 9:19:46 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: NorthMountain

And just as we sanctioned RSA because of Apartheid, so should we for this criminal theft of private property.


49 posted on 08/20/2018 9:20:57 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

What Sanders, his supporters and Occasional-Cortex don’t realize is the ‘rich’ will leave and they will have nothing but dirt left..................See “Atlas Shrugged” for more detail...............


50 posted on 08/20/2018 9:22:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world learns the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: Red Badger
Building On The Great Successes Of The Rhodesia - Zimbabwe Land Confiscations


51 posted on 08/20/2018 9:23:18 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler ("John and his rhetoric have become anLiberalism is the philosophy of sniveling brats. - P.J. ORourke)
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To: Red Badger

The whites in SA should just leave, because the “black majority” is bent on a “blacks only” citizenry there. Give them another twenty years, and SA will be just like the rest of Africa, i.e. a $hit hole). I just hope we are smart enough to stop allowing anyone from that continent to immigrate to America.


52 posted on 08/20/2018 9:24:27 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Gay State Conservative

It will descend to the level of Somalia.
Sooner than you think........................


53 posted on 08/20/2018 9:25:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world learns the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: Red Badger

Don’t need to go all the way to the Horn of Africa to see their miserable future - just need to look across the border at Zimbabwe.


54 posted on 08/20/2018 9:27:18 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Red Badger

This is what the socialist and left hate group want to happen here in the US... they would get rid of the so called white supremacists


55 posted on 08/20/2018 9:27:50 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Gwede Mantashe, ANC Chairman -- "You shouldn’t own more than 25,000 acres of land. Therefore if you own more it should be taken without compensation. People who are privileged never give away privilege as a matter of a gift."

What's worrisome and really scary is that is precisely what Bernie Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez-Cortez, Tom Perez, and about two-thirds of Democrat politicians think should happen here...as well as about two-thirds of Democrat voters.


More than once I have witnessed a liberal angrily tell another person, usually it was a single person, that "you don't need that big of a house" or something to that effect. The mindset is there. If they ever had the power, they would use the power of taxation to turn this country into one big Section 8. Didn't Britain float a "room tax", where if you had unused rooms in your house you would be penalized?
56 posted on 08/20/2018 9:29:04 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: CondorFlight
The Chinese say that at least three times in your life you should be ready to abandon everything and flee, and start over.

True wisdom is often a painful truth.

Your life is the only thing you can’t afford to lose.

57 posted on 08/20/2018 9:31:41 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

The white farmers should immediately start selling small parcels of land. If such small parcels did sell, the farmers might be able to recover more of their investment. The purchasers of these small parcels would surely fail due to inexperience and lack of scale.


58 posted on 08/20/2018 9:32:14 AM PDT by monocle
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To: MarMema

Roughly 100,000 of them have made it out since 2011, while over 1 million people from other parts of Africa moved in during the same time period.


59 posted on 08/20/2018 9:33:22 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

BFL viewing


60 posted on 08/20/2018 9:33:40 AM PDT by The FIGHTIN Illini (Wake up fellow Patriots before it's too late)
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