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To: boatbums; daniel1212; metmom; Mark17; ealgeone; Luircin; aMorePerfectUnion
you and I simply don't agree about some things

Well, true, we don't. I can only repeat: I am here to correct errors regarding Catholicism and answer questions about it. I am not interested in Protestantism however differently it might be expressed by someone.

691 posted on 08/28/2018 5:42:42 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex; aMorePerfectUnion

Well, true, we don’t. I can only repeat: I am here to correct errors regarding Catholicism and answer questions about it. I am not interested in Protestantism however differently it might be expressed by someone.

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So, holding your hands over your ears and chanting ‘LA LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU’ is known as ‘demolishing Prot arguments’ in Catholic circles?

This explains so much.


707 posted on 08/28/2018 1:15:31 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: annalex
you and I simply don't agree about some things

Well, true, we don't.

I've been thinking about this for the last few nights and I wanted to say that you and I probably do agree on most of the major doctrines of the Christian faith. One primary point where we disagree, you know, is on the doctrine of justification. I believe that I am saved and made righteous through faith in Jesus Christ and this is because of the grace and mercy of Almighty God. I live and walk by faith and I know that my manner of life is one where the Holy Spirit is working within me conforming me to the image of Christ. If I mess up and sin, I almost immediately confess it to the Lord, tell Him I am sorry, determine with His help to not do so again and then I accept the forgiveness He said He is faithful and just to grant me. I can see how much God has changed me spiritually over the years and my faith grows stronger through every trial. My manner of life is an outgrowth of my faith, my works demonstrate to others that my faith is genuine - though God alone sees my heart. I know that my works are NOT what saves me and that it is solely by the grace of God through faith alone. I believe that to make salvation dependent on our works negates grace. If we could be justified by our works, then Christ died in vain.

My question to you then is, if I live in faith and obedience to God in a way that brings glory to Him and I rejoice in my salvation that is not dependent on my good works, how is that different than if I did depend upon my faith and works to save me? What would be the difference? I have both faith and good works either way.

Now, just to clarify, I happen to believe that it is not a true faith to rely upon my good works to save me. Instead, it is ALL the work of Jesus Christ and I cannot merit or ever deserve the gift of God which is eternal life.

749 posted on 08/29/2018 9:22:51 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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