Republicans needs to talk to young people. I do have friends who are Dems (only because they support gays), but most of my friends are independent.
I know I might be condemned because of my post, but the Republican Party is not helping the newest voters, the young people who are going to vote in 2018, 2019 or (like me) 2020. If Trump runs for re-election, I'm going to vote for him, but I'll vote for people who are more libertarian.
1. Please state your position on abortion laws
2. Please endeavor to reconcile your advocacy of small government with using the full force of government to make everyone recognize, endorse, and subsidize gay marriage
You sound like my kids. They don’t like taxes or big govt, bug have quite a few gay friends.
They are split on immigration. One is very against all forms. The others don’t seem to mind illegal immigration.
Thanks for having the courage to post your thoughts.
Here are a few thoughts from someone much older:
When I was a teen and first found out what homosexuality was, my initial reaction was “Ewww”. Then “why?”. Followed by assorted ideas and emotions including disgust, confusion, pity, etc., etc. as I tried to sort out my attitude toward this. We didn’t get lectures about it in school in my day.
Eventually I read a column by Ann Landers or Dear Abby (the 2 major newspaper advice columnists at the time) who addressed the issue by saying that a homosexual would find the idea of heterosexual sex just as unappealing as a heterosexual finds homosexual sex. For a while, I bought that argument (partly because it seemed sensible, partly because I was young and respected nearly anything in print, partly because it wasn’t a topic that was discussed anywhere, so I knew of no other opinions on the topic).
As a college student, in a liberal environment, little changed. If anything, I was exposed to some very pro-homosexual literature that was emotionally manipulative and glamorized the homosexual lifestyle. (Side note: I considered myself middle of the road or slightly right of center as a young adult. It took me a few more years before I considered myself a libertarian, so you’re ahead of my timeline in that regard. It wasn’t until much later that I realized I was really a conservative.)
As an adult, having known a fair number of homosexuals, plus having read a considerable amount of actual data (not just emotional manipulative narratives), my attitudes have changed. I regard homosexuals the same way I regard alcoholics. I think they are people with unhealthy compulsions. There are homosexuals and alcoholics who I love. But I would not encourage either to pursue their unhealthy compulsions.
As for transgenders, that is, to me, an extreme form of mental illness. Imagine for a moment that you had a friend who was convinced that he was born in the wrong body and that his real body had only one arm. Imagine that he went to a doctor and convinced him that he was really in the wrong body and that in order to make his body conform to what he believed he was meant to be, the doctor needed to amputate his arm. Would you think the doctor was helping him or hurting him? Would you think your friend needed therapy? Or would you think that your friend needed an arm amputated?
You’re young and you’re a thinker. I don’t expect you will agree with everything that I say, but I do think you are open-minded enough to consider differing opinions and to weigh the evidence when you are presented with facts.
In the facts department, I would encourage you to do an internet search of health effects of homosexuality.
At any rate, hang in there, and thanks for posting.
You’re young and hopefully you’ll live long enough to mature and see the unsustainability of your generation’s beliefs. Many societies were homosupremecist like your generation. None of them lasted more than a generation.
You may have to change your screen name because conservatism is not what you revere. It’s social progressivism that is your true god.
Try to be open minded about the wisdom of long-lasting societies that you don’t want to conserve.
You’ve got it backwards: it’s the left who politicizes everything and makes you care about bedrooms and bathrooms. I don’t “mind” gays any more than I’d “mind” any other soul whose entire identity is wrapped up in sexual deviancy. And “transgendered?” Really. As a teen I hope you have enough wisdom to realize how little you really know about life. Less than even I did at your age, because back then adults hadn’t yet begun stuffing children’s heads with shit.
Hopefully conservateen will ride the lighting soon.
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Sorry to disillusion you, ConservaTeen. The republican party intends to throw the 2018 elections then stand aside while the rats do their dirty work for them and impeach President Trump. There is no hope in the republicans - they are willfully giving this nation away. They are not worthy of your support.
I thought my enlightened youthful insight should be noticed. That was literally at the height of the Cold War. Anyway, I learned I didn’t know as much as I thought I did. Repeating mistakes are expensive. Time and money. Making some assumption, I have teens that are your age it slightly older and do not see many reasons to moderate my or conservative principles in order to let them catch up.
Homosexuals = costly health care (physical and mental)
New families = same (out of marriage kids)
Student loans = real full costs on those not involved in your next 30 years of earnings not kicking kids down the road 10-15 years. And if you didn’t wait a divorce due to streatched out financial outlook that hangs like a condemned murderer over your early marriage like a flag over a coffin.
Drugs = same
Healthcare = expensive for good life saving care (think cancer that only top 10% of countries beat, yeah that has a cost that only stable productive countries can provide) when conservative teen is conservativeteen is only conservative younger kid and the difference than being a middle class conservative teen and a welfare rat is a dad that is still working and providing.
I can go on and on. Pick a subject. It’s not ignorance it’s experiences. That comes with age. I expect to earn more knowledge over the next years as god decides how much we ear and how much I have left to earn.
Politics (I love politics) is insignificant compared to real world stuff and liberty, true libert, requires true life conservative life not political life. Hope that makes sense.
God bless and never compromise in your individual morals.
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Btw. Your not from Alabama so really it’s non of your business.
Shut up.
Dealing with criticism is hard BTW. This I’ll be tough for your whole family if it’s real (yeah I’m that jaded). If you are real and the response piss you off your allowed to sa FU to everyone. That’s still allowed I think because I did it 3 days ago and didn’t get banned yet.
You may or may not understand the difference between the candidate and agenda-related issues, but most of your next elder generation understands this as an agenda issue.
If teens think that the preponderance of “weight” (via pressure) can change our minds (at least mine), they need to rethink. Judgment is not a collective process.
If your friends support gays, they need to understand the difference between the conservative and liberal viewpoints. Conservatives believe that the LEGAL rights of gays are no less and no more than the LEGAL rights of non-gays.
Liberals believe that the LEGAL rights of gays should be greater than the LEGAL right of non-gays in order to address some past situation where the legal rights of gays were denied.
Republicans need to put together a plan for reacting to ambushes of the type employed against Roy Moore. But, keep in mind that the text book answer to an ambush is overwhelming force.
This take-down is courtesy of the conventional GOP elite. They are announcing themselves as the enemy of conservatives. The GOP is a political party. Consider whether you want to be associated with a political party (the GOP) or a political movement (conservative/populist supporters of Trump, et al).
I will not condemn you, but I will remind you to consider that your thoughts are hardly unique to your generation. Including the idea that the previous generation never thought of them.
Bullock 80.4%
Macon 88.1
Montgomery 72.1
Dallas 74.7
Perry 79
Wilcox 76.7
Hale 87.6
Sumter 80.9
Jefferson 69.6
Mobile 57.2
Madison 56.9
|
|
Jones | Moore | Write-Ins | Rpt. |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jefferson |
121,169
|
49,910
|
3,121
|
85% |
| Madison |
65,664
|
46,313
|
3,446
|
100 |
| Mobile |
57,715
|
41,398
|
1,300
|
71 |
| Montgomery |
48,186
|
17,705
|
743
|
100 |
| Shelby |
27,251
|
36,424
|
1,718
|
100 |
| Baldwin |
22,131
|
38,445
|
1,699
|
98 |
| Tuscaloosa |
30,858
|
22,064
|
1,007
|
100 |
| Lee |
19,810
|
14,017
|
672
|
100 |
| Morgan |
10,901
|
19,187
|
668
|
100 |
| Etowah |
10,518
|
15,693
|
617
|
100 |
| Calhoun |
11,705
|
14,567
|
399
|
100 |
| Limestone |
9,606
|
14,298
|
515
|
100 |
| Houston |
9,107
|
14,796
|
285
|
100 |
| Lauderdale |
9,908
|
12,775
|
382
|
100 |
| St. Clair |
6,203
|
15,876
|
459
|
100 |
| Elmore |
7,711
|
14,411
|
338
|
100 |
| Cullman |
4,156
|
16,602
|
324
|
100 |
| Talladega |
9,967
|
9,698
|
223
|
100 |
| Marshall |
5,134
|
13,828
|
449
|
100 |
| Walker |
4,317
|
11,909
|
259
|
100 |
| Colbert |
6,865
|
7,762
|
171
|
100 |
| Autauga |
5,606
|
8,752
|
253
|
100 |
| Blount |
2,405
|
11,621
|
180
|
100 |
| Dallas |
10,492
|
3,485
|
60
|
100 |
| DeKalb |
3,559
|
10,097
|
234
|
100 |
| Coffee |
3,715
|
8,052
|
202
|
100 |
| Tallapoosa |
4,590
|
7,171
|
148
|
100 |
| Dale |
3,842
|
6,988
|
136
|
100 |
| Jackson |
3,328
|
7,316
|
154
|
100 |
| Russell |
6,761
|
3,622
|
55
|
100 |
| Chilton |
2,298
|
7,555
|
132
|
100 |
| Covington |
2,102
|
6,825
|
88
|
100 |
| Escambia |
3,640
|
4,985
|
87
|
100 |
| Lawrence |
3,028
|
5,314
|
61
|
100 |
| Clarke |
4,346
|
3,984
|
43
|
100 |
| Pike |
3,989
|
4,154
|
97
|
100 |
| Chambers |
4,247
|
3,308
|
75
|
100 |
| Marengo |
4,495
|
2,804
|
62
|
100 |
| Geneva |
1,289
|
5,431
|
93
|
100 |
| Marion |
1,311
|
5,268
|
68
|
100 |
| Monroe |
3,244
|
3,276
|
40
|
100 |
| Macon |
5,780
|
758
|
20
|
100 |
| Barbour |
3,680
|
2,699
|
41
|
100 |
| Pickens |
3,057
|
2,961
|
46
|
100 |
| Franklin |
1,770
|
4,214
|
48
|
100 |
| Butler |
2,914
|
2,756
|
41
|
100 |
| Winston |
911
|
4,680
|
67
|
100 |
| Cherokee |
1,525
|
3,996
|
110
|
100 |
| Hale |
3,894
|
1,691
|
32
|
100 |
| Bibb |
1,567
|
3,599
|
66
|
100 |
| Washington |
1,799
|
3,320
|
48
|
100 |
| Henry |
1,896
|
3,014
|
38
|
100 |
| Randolph |
1,692
|
3,229
|
23
|
100 |
| Lowndes |
3,779
|
988
|
13
|
100 |
| Fayette |
1,142
|
3,491
|
50
|
100 |
| Sumter |
3,527
|
814
|
18
|
100 |
| Wilcox |
3,344
|
999
|
16
|
100 |
| Choctaw |
2,273
|
1,949
|
17
|
100 |
| Conecuh |
2,259
|
1,815
|
18
|
100 |
| Perry |
3,138
|
821
|
11
|
100 |
| Greene |
3,340
|
462
|
9
|
100 |
| Crenshaw |
1,320
|
2,347
|
56
|
100 |
| Lamar |
779
|
2,847
|
29
|
100 |
| Clay |
985
|
2,586
|
44
|
100 |
| Bullock |
2,712
|
656
|
7
|
100 |
| Coosa |
1,414
|
1,867
|
30
|
100 |
| Cleburne |
594
|
2,465
|
30
|
100 |
Authoritarian Republicans—just like authoritarian Democrats—need to overcome their shortcut nanny-state impulses and accept the fact that not everyone who is fiscally conservative is necessarily socially conservative.
One cannot simultaneously be a nanny-stater and believe in minimal government. The concepts are almost mutually exclusive, for once nanny-state policies are implemented, there must necessarily be an ever-expanding regulatory and enforcement apparatus—and that apparatus will invariably start trampling on Constitutional Rights.
Thus, many traditional conservatives—by resorting to the same authoritarian nanny-state impulses that the Left indulges—alienate members of the younger generation, and they reinforce stereotypes regarding Republicans and intrusive government.
Any American who is aware enough to repudiate marxism and socialism should naturally gravitate towards the GOP, and the gratuitous antagonism that more doctrinaire Republicans display towards the libertarian crowd couldn't possibly be more counterproductive.
People who oppose socialism should band together based on the 80+ percent that they agree on, rather than try to antagonize one another about the other 20%.
Demographically, the GOP tent is shrinking, so it stands to reason that the appeal of the GOP—if it is to broaden—must do so based on things like ideological commonalities, with greater tolerance regarding differences.
With respect to Liberty—beyond issues of force, fraud, and negligence which infringe on individual rights—any additional authoritarianism is gratuitous, and should not be part of the GOP's core ideology. Why? Because such compromises—the embrace of arbitrary law—are precisely what creates the slippery slope which leads to a government with practically unlimited power to destroy.
I, for one, reject such Statism categorically, regardless of which side of the fake Left/Right political spectrum it emanates from. Make no mistake: in America, Freedom flows from an ideologically consistent understanding of Authority vs. Liberty, and cherry-picking shortcuts will always represent a threat—and whether the shortcuts come from the "Right" or the "Left" is totally irrelevant.
Barring bona fide infringement on another individual's rights, the "Pursuit of Happiness" is what the Individual decides—it should never depend on the whims of any other person or mob...
I also don’t care where you stick your wang. I honestly think the gay chromosome is on the Y. Some minuscule % of men are just gay. (Mostly Theater Majors) The rest of gayness is by choice/mental illness #. Transgenderism is a mental disease. It is why such a massive % of them commit suicide.
Guns? check
Small Gov? check but let me add I don’t want them in my garage*, bathroom** or laundry room*** either. I don’t want them at my business telling me to bake a gay cake. The Government that governs least governs best.
# Explain why gay suicide is so high... not as high as trans though.
* It is my friggen car.
** So I have to flush twice? Idiots
*** So I have to run the damned HE washer twice to actually clean stuff? Idiots
I think you’re on the right track. Just keep using your brain and your eyes and don’t accept what anyone says without checking it out for yourself. That especially applies to the media and to politicians.