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1 posted on 10/08/2017 8:40:58 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Not what I would call a “reliable” witness of the events. Just another guy suffering from “shell Shock”


2 posted on 10/08/2017 8:45:50 AM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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Well there ya go. Simply the facts. So, how many fortune tellers are there in Vegas? Why haven’t the LEO folks contacted them yet? I heard they’re putting up bill boards asking for anyone with any info on this POS to call it in. I bet a lot of us wish we were that invisible to Big Bro.


3 posted on 10/08/2017 8:48:08 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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me too


4 posted on 10/08/2017 8:51:28 AM PDT by DOC44 (Have gun will travel.)
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Their stories will be discounted and their character impugned, reminiscent of 1963, when onlookers waiting in the Grassy Knoll turned and ran towards where they heard the shots coming from.


5 posted on 10/08/2017 8:51:34 AM PDT by Kalamata (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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This fellow could see the bullets in flight?

Golly, I wish my eyes were still that good. /s


7 posted on 10/08/2017 9:00:57 AM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3593056/posts?page=1#1

Ping to one of the wounded guys saying the incoming was coming not only down at an angle, but straight across.


8 posted on 10/08/2017 9:01:11 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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he describes bullets not only raining down, but flying horizontally at the crowd

Probably ricochets.

12 posted on 10/08/2017 9:06:09 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Hollywood, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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So here’s the thing; absent a tracer round, it’s just really, really hard to see supersonic bullets in flight, even in daylight. Knowing what angle they’re at at night, sorry, no.


14 posted on 10/08/2017 9:07:37 AM PDT by bazineta
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I have a problem with the large and probably thick windows at the Mandalay Bay Casino!

a) Wouldn't it cause a LOT of noise inside the hotel to break out these windows BEFORE the shooting started?

b) Wouldn't it be extremely difficult for ONE PERSON to break out BOTH windows BEFORE the shooting started?

c) Wouldn't someone else in a nearby room report this noise for security to respond to before the shooting started?

d) Wouldn't it take a FEW MINUTES for ONE PERSON to break out these windows BEFORE the shooting started?

e) Wouldn't the person breaking out these windows risk cutting themselves during this process? I see no cuts or scrapes on Paddock's arm in the crime scene photo.

f) Can ONE person do this quickly, with ONE window being ALMOST COMPLETELY SMASHED OUT?

16 posted on 10/08/2017 9:17:44 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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Palermo strongly believes there were between 3-5 active shooters during the attack because as he ran away from the initial gunfire, he describes bullets not only raining down, but flying horizontally at the crowd.

The easy way to determine that is to look at any walls or vertical surfaces in the area in and around the "beaten zone." If there are bullet impacts or marks on walls or other vertical surfaces that are not ricochets, maybe there were rounds coming from different direction and elevation to support the multiple shooter theory. Especially if they are on surfaces that could not be in the LOS/LOF of Paddock's position.

Another thing to look for would be stray casings in locations that were nowhere near Paddock's position.

Were there any other windows in the hotel broken from the inside outward? I've only seen the photos of the two in rooms that Paddock had secured.

Paddock seems to be the only shooter at this point. But my guess is he had help/support from others even if he was ultimately the only one to carry it out. I just hope we get the whole truth one day.

23 posted on 10/08/2017 9:27:07 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Just watched the Fox interview with Steve Wynn and he said no one had seen Paddock or Danley consume any alcohol but the alleged hairdresser said when Paddock came in for a haircut he always reeked of alcohol.


30 posted on 10/08/2017 9:34:26 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Somebody shooting from ground level would be much more easily heard and seen.


35 posted on 10/08/2017 9:46:12 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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should be easy to prove from the angle of entrance wounds
40 posted on 10/08/2017 10:21:50 AM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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Would the folks on the ground have heard the window breaking or even the initial shooting over the music?


43 posted on 10/08/2017 10:32:13 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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Where are the spent cartridges? Ballistics for this will take months if not years...


44 posted on 10/08/2017 10:32:22 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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As you are running away, you cannot know with accuracy the direction of the bullets. Even facing the fire.


46 posted on 10/08/2017 10:34:11 AM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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Guy doesn’t know about ricochets.

If there were mutiple shooters, the authorities know, so now you are in conspiracy land.

They have the guns from the room. If there are bullets in the concrete or laying around that couldn’t be fired or wasn’t fired from those guns, then there was a second shooter or more. The cops will be searching grass areas with metal detectors for bullets. They will search the concrete. They will save bullets from bodies.

They will know.


47 posted on 10/08/2017 10:35:02 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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Sort of like the TWA Flight 800 where many, many witnesses reported seeing the plane hit by a missile. The august government authorities just neglected to officially bless all those witnesses with acknowledgment of what they saw. Didn’t fit story they were writing.

In Vegas, all these victims (and police reports on audio) were merely confused during the fog of war.

Remember, the FBI spokesman came out a few hours after the shooting and declared that the killer was not associated with international terrorism. The FBI knew nothing at all about the guy, except that.


50 posted on 10/08/2017 10:38:56 AM PDT by odawg
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The fog of war.

Let’s see if the Bullets removed from the Victims match the Calibers of the Rifles the Murderous SOB used before we get into a Grassy Knoll discussion.


55 posted on 10/08/2017 10:43:03 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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Active shooter at the Tropicana, according to the vid...This or another location could account for the muzzle blast ‘reflection’ on the 4th floor window of the Mandalay Hotel...


61 posted on 10/08/2017 10:58:23 AM PDT by Iscool
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