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To: rockrr
Just found a new piece of information about Lincoln today. I already knew that Lincoln supported people's right to independence in his speech about Texas independence from Mexico in 1848, but I didn't know that he helped to draft a document about Hungarian Independence in 1852.

Resolved, 1. That it is the right of any people, sufficiently numerous for national independence, to throw off, to revolutionize, their existing form of government, and to establish such other in its stead as they may choose.

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln2/1:184?rgn=div1;view=fulltext

So in other words, he was for it before he was against it. Twice.

16 posted on 09/08/2017 1:05:22 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Lincoln was always favorable to the right of people to resort to revolution to throw off tyrants.


19 posted on 09/08/2017 1:49:20 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: DiogenesLamp; rockrr
DiogenesLamp on Lincoln's views of rebellion: "So in other words, he was for it before he was against it. Twice."

And RE Lee's family opposed rebellion (Whiskey Rebellion), while Bobby Lee himself ended John Brown's rebellion, before Lee supported the Slave-holders' Rebellion.

Funny how that worked out, isn't it?

33 posted on 09/09/2017 8:52:45 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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