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What is the matter with these idiots?!

The main thing is to repeal Obamacare now. Then they can play with any replacement or none.

Just repeal it!

1 posted on 07/18/2017 12:46:04 PM PDT by Innovative
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The GOP is dead.


33 posted on 07/18/2017 1:19:44 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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So what is the best option now. Should the conservatives like Cruz/Paul give in and take the watered down replacement?


35 posted on 07/18/2017 1:21:59 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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If the GOP hadn't stolen the election away from Joe Miller, the scofflaw Murkowski, who somehow found a way to mount an effective write-in election to steal her own voters' election, would not be in the position to stop the repeal.

FU Lisa Murkowski. You are continue to be the enemy of Republican Party voters.
38 posted on 07/18/2017 1:23:56 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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>> Earlier Tuesday, Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) also said they will not support moving to the repeal-only bill. <<

Worthless RINO Collins is no surprise. But Capito is a huge disappointment. She's always been squishy and I suspected she'd stab us in the back when she ran for the Senate, which is why I opposed her bid even though she was the only "name" candidate at the time. Since we no longer have to worry about a RAT incumbent, she needs to have her butt primaried next time. There is no excuse for this. If Capito hadn't turned traitor, Pence would have been able to cast a tie-breaking vote to stop Collins and Murkowski's defections.

>> I don’t think they have the votes to repeal or replace unless they go nuclear. <<

I'd much rather they had saved "going nuclear" for repealing Obamacare instead of confirming Gorsuch. (and I stand by my beliefs that Gorsuch is a male version of Sandra Day O'Connor and will not vote to overturn Roe v. Wade or homo marriage)

39 posted on 07/18/2017 1:29:03 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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I need affordable coverage.

Put a bill in the hopper:
1. allowing insurance companies to sell low-cost coverage for up to 16 days of life-saving hospital inpatient care with a $1,000 deductible, with available riders for:
a. up to $1,000 of outpatient testing with Medicare Part B level co-pays for most Part B covered tests
b. one emergency visit with a co-pay of $300 less $10 for each month of premiums fully paid under the policy prior to the visit
c. drug coverage with a patient co-pays of $10, $20, and $50 per 30-day/course prescription for insurer selected drugs
d. one emergency ambulance ride with 20% co-insurance
2. allowing purchase of such coverage to be considered qualifying coverage
3. subsidy half of PPACA “silver plan” amount

Put it up for a vote.

Make these RINOs vote.

I want a choice and a chance to save my life.


40 posted on 07/18/2017 1:29:26 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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What is the matter with these idiots?!

They lied to the constituents and never intended to repeal Obamacare in any vote that mattered.

43 posted on 07/18/2017 1:51:42 PM PDT by Kazan
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Vote Republican!

Time is on our side.

0 of 60 Democrats voted REPEAL

49 of 52 Republicans voted REPEAL

Over time, more Obamacare pain and death, the more agreeable pols becomes.


46 posted on 07/18/2017 2:09:14 PM PDT by TheNext (RETROACTIVE REFUND & REPEAL of ACA.)
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Innovative wrote: “What is the matter with these idiots?!”

Nothing. The problem is with the American people who want mutually exclusive objectives. They don’t want an individual mandate. They want the same price for all. They want no preexisting conditions. They want their kids covered until they’re 26. They want all those things and they want it cheap.


48 posted on 07/18/2017 2:36:13 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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Trump needs to cut a deal with these renegades. I say Trump because he is the big shot negotiator and McConnell is ... well ... turtle soup. That’s how it works in DC.

I mean come on. They can’t redirect some infrastructure project or get some graft for their states so they vote yes for something they already voted yes on a few years ago?


51 posted on 07/18/2017 2:51:34 PM PDT by plain talk
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I am kicking myself for thinking this, “These problems all started with woman’s suffrage.” Now to the corner and a time-out.


55 posted on 07/18/2017 5:34:26 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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Only Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) voted against the same bill in 2015, and thus is consistent. Every other Republican senator still in the U.S. Senate voted for repeal.

The only other Republican to vote against this bill in 2015 was Kirk and he lost his seat 2016, no doubt in part because of his vote. Susan Collins will not be up for reelection again until 2020.

The 2 senators that changed their mind were West Virgina’s Shelley Moore (reelection 2020) and Alaska’s Lisa Murkowski. (reelection 2022 having just won reelection in 2016 on voting for repeal)

If either Alaska’s or West Virginia’s senator don’t change their minds we will have to see to it they are hanged politically for their corrupt duplicity in 2020 and 2022.

They are in an indefensible position of having campaigned for & voted for before conveniently opposing the exact same bill. Based entirely upon whether or not it would be vetoed. That means nothing they say can ever be trusted on any issue on which they don’t obtain immediate results for they have proven they are capable of changing their position the minute their so called claimed policy objectives are achievable.

Theses women are corrupt completely bought and paid for, as their political agenda is clearly not that which they campaigned for.


58 posted on 07/18/2017 6:37:09 PM PDT by Monorprise
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It’s the Republican primary voters who have caused all of this by insisting on nominating “electable” House and Senate nominees.


59 posted on 07/19/2017 3:08:56 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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