Full text of Donald Trump’s speech in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

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[allendale]

Sadly you are ignoring 1200 years of actual deeds, history, philosophical foundation and ongoing reality. The Wahhabi are not an Islamic aberration. They reflect the very beliefs and attitudes that are the foundation of Islam. Politically correct posturing and tolerance of these bizarre ideas are at the heart of Western delusion. Such delusion makes the West very vulnerable and weak. However over the past fifty years the West itself has changed and has made itself vulnerable to barbaric people of purpose. The West has entered a post Christian neo pagan era of decadence. Widespread unrestricted abortion, the acceptance of open homosexuality and its permutations, earth and celebrity worship, fornication, drug use and pornography are now common acceptable behavior. Deluded superficial epicureans , without ideals or real virtue, are very vulnerable physically and psychologically to purposeful fanatics. It is no accident that Barack Hussein Obama, who made no secret of his agenda, was elected less than 8 years after 9/11. It is no surprise either that so many Westerners suffer from a collective Stockholm syndrome and embrace those who will eventually and without pause kill them. So much so that they shout at the rational and accuse them of “Islamophobia”. They almost elected Hillary Clinton. There is an ideological vapidity in the West that makes it very vulnerable to destruction. Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan. Reagan had a clear ideological grounding and while always civil and polite, did not forsake it, allow himself to be governed by polls or whims and was ultimately very successful.

[olezip]

Which is exactly Obama and the Dems position.

Can you cite when the Dems gave a speech to 55 Arab nations to talk about their position? Or is it the usual show over substance, that is, lack of substance. Were the Dems lying or misleading?

[McGavin999]

You’ve worked hard today. I don’t know what trolls get paid but you need to ask your boss for a raise

[daniel1212]

Which is exactly Obama and the Dems position. It’s nothing to do with Islam and is a criminal issue.

It does fail to recognize that Islam itself is the problem, as the violent conquestorial-type Muslims are better followers of their conquestorial founder and history than the peace-loving co-existers. But by absolutely condemning Islamic terrorism and vowing to exterminate it ["I, Trump has essentially insisted conquestorial Islamic religious violence cannot be part of that faith, which thus is a partial denial of Islam.

But the ACLU etc. must cringe at a (conservative) President making a theological statement:

Every time a terrorist murders an innocent person, and falsely invokes the name of God, it should be an insult to every person of faith. Terrorists do not worship God, they worship death.

And this language is far too radical for liberals, who have sympathy for the devil:

A better future is only possible if your nations drive out the terrorists and extremists. Drive. Them. Out. DRIVE THEM OUT of your places of worship. DRIVE THEM OUT of your communities. DRIVE THEM OUT of your holy land, and DRIVE THEM OUT OF THIS EARTH.

Religious leaders must make this absolutely clear: Barbarism will deliver you no glory – piety to evil will bring you no dignity. If you choose the path of terror, your life will be empty, your life will be brief, and YOUR SOUL WILL BE CONDEMNED.

I cannot imagine any recent past president saying that.

But invoking God to bless countries who are at war with Him is different story:

Thank you. God Bless You. God Bless Your Countries. And God Bless the United States of America.

[Canedawg]

Some estimates hold that more than 95 percent of the victims of terrorism are themselves Muslim.

If only we could get rid of muslim on muslim killing, and black on black crime, the world would be a much safer place.

[Luircin]

I have no idea how your comments connect at all to what I posted.

[ifinnegan]

You’re a buffoon.

[ifinnegan]

It is not cherry picking it is the key fundamental aspects of the policy and viewpoint.

[daniel1212]

Sadly you are ignoring 1200 years of actual deeds, history, philosophical foundation and ongoing reality. The Wahhabi are not an Islamic aberration. They reflect the very beliefs and attitudes that are the foundation of Islam. Politically correct posturing and tolerance of these bizarre ideas are at the heart of Western delusion. Such delusion makes the West very vulnerable and weak. However over the past fifty years the West itself has changed and has made itself vulnerable to barbaric people of purpose. The West has entered a post Christian neo pagan era of decadence. Widespread unrestricted abortion, the acceptance of open homosexuality and its permutations, earth and celebrity worship, fornication, drug use and pornography are now common acceptable behavior. Deluded superficial epicureans , without ideals or real virtue, are very vulnerable physically and psychologically to purposeful fanatics. It is no accident that Barack Hussein Obama, who made no secret of his agenda, was elected less than 8 years after 9/11. It is no surprise either that so many Westerners suffer from a collective Stockholm syndrome and embrace those who will eventually and without pause kill them. So much so that they shout at the rational and accuse them of “Islamophobia”. They almost elected Hillary Clinton. There is an ideological vapidity in the West that makes it very vulnerable to destruction...

Much truth and eloquence here.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

*APPLAUSE*

*TRUMP BUMP* :)

[FenwickBabbitt]

The Saudi “royals” not only supported the terrorists but the Saudi government was aware and did nothing to warn the Americans.

Could you provide some actual proof or even a real explanation of this? I know it's a theory, but attacking Trump over some speculation is a bit much, when he has our larger interests in the region to look out for, including supporting a counterweight to Iran (the "death to America and Israel" country seeking out nuclear weapons). After all, Osama bin Laden made it openly clear that he wanted to bring down the House of Saud, because he did not think they were worthy of being the keepers of Mecca and Medina. He was directly threatening the lives and power of the Saudi leaders, so why would they support him privately?

More recently, Al-Qaeda off-shoot ISIS has been threatening the leaders of Saudi Arabia, wanting them out of the way for their united theocratic Caliphate. That's why Saudi Arabia has done so many bombing raids against ISIS. Of course, many Saudi citizens promote terror, even Al-Qaeda and ISIS, but where's the evidence that the Saudi leaders knew that their enemies in Al-Qaeda were going to attack their ally and biggest military protector, the U.S., but did not warn us?

[McGavin999]

That proves you are a liberal. When you can’t argue your position call someone names

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Your Post #10? Very well said!

*TRUMP BUMP*

[Luircin]

Two words: Prove it.

Because from what I see, you picked out a few sentences in speeches and claim that those few sentences encompass the entirety of policy.

I pointed out the differences, and you went back to your few sentences.

Other people pointed out the differences, and you went back to your few sentences.

That’s the very definition of cherry picking, and the logical fallacy of arugmentum ad nauseum on top of it.

[Fhios]

I think Trump’s idea is as ‘refined as Obama and the DNC. Trump has a ‘rougher’ interpretation on dealing with international gangsters.

[Kaslin]

We do have to pray for him

[Luircin]

Thanks!

As I implied in another post upthread, I may be a little cynical about whether the majority of the Muslims in the world will come to believe the message that the President is giving them.

But if Trump manages to convince even 1 out of 1000, that’s 16 million new voices for reform.

And even if it makes no difference, it was at least worth a try. Reagan had bigger worries than Islam during his Presidency. Clinton ignored them except when he needed a distraction from Monica. Bush made a show of it but didn’t actually try to do anything other than grow the deep state and tell people that Islam as a whole doesn’t need to change. And Obama outright encouraged and supported terrorism. Despite some of the nay-sayers on the thread, what the President is doing is something new.

I am at least willing to give President Trump a chance. He is a good speaker with inspiring ideals. Maybe he’ll succeed in the goals stated in his speech, maybe not. Maybe he’ll score a partial victory. But at the very least, I won’t fault him for making the attempt.

[libstripper]

Trump also, although being totally respectful to Islam as one religion among the three Abraamaic religions, did not subtly state, as Obola did, that it was the valid one, when he said Islam was "revealed to the Prophet Mohamed."

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

Terrific...so would you have been pleased if trump had said to the Saudis to get F..d!
Maybe just bomb all billions of muzzies with nukes?

Oh... what would we do without your brilliant analyses?

[FenwickBabbitt]

Obama would have wet himself if he had to give such a hard-hitting anti-terrorism speech.

I was very happy at the contrast of Trump’s speech vs. Obama and Bush’s naive interventionist stances. Trump’s “principled realism” and America first policies are a breath of fresh air. He only wants to do things that are clearly in the American interest, like eliminate ISIS and stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. The Saudis can help with that. It’s not in our interest to hopelessly declare war on all one and half billion Muslims. He doesn’t want to impose anything on them with another unnecessary war or “sudden intervention”; instead he tried to convince them how it is in their own interests to stop terrorists in their countries.

This sort of America First policy is very different from all the unnecessary and destructive meddling that Bush and Obama favored, so it seems to me like a really solid shift in our foreign policy. Overall, I thought it was a very good, effective speech, and far better than Obama’s apology tour speech (And by the way, in his actual spoken speech he said “Islamic terror” not “Islamist terror groups” like this pre-prepared transcripts says.)