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H-1B Experts on Trump’s Order: ‘This Is What We Elected Him For’
Breitbart ^ | 04/18/2017 | John Binder

Posted on 04/18/2017 7:55:21 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

President Donald Trump is getting praise from experts on the H-1B foreign guest worker visa for his ‘Hire American’ Executive Order which calls for a review into the system’s abuse at the expense of American workers.

Although the H-1B visa is only meant to be used by a U.S. company when there are no American workers with the skill-set needed for the job, critics argue the program is riddled with abuse and fraud, leaving Americans to sometimes train their cheaper, foreign replacements before being fired.

Trump’s new executive order targeting abuse by U.S. companies, as Breitbart News reported, calls for the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Labor Department and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to conduct a “full legal analysis” of all the problems negatively impacting American workers in the H-1B visa system.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; americans1st; first100days; h1b; trump; trump45; trumpeo
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1 posted on 04/18/2017 7:55:21 PM PDT by ForYourChildren
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To: ForYourChildren

This is the context

“Donald Trump Celebrates ‘America First’ Executive Order in Wisconsin”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/18/donald-trump-celebrates-america-first-executive-order-wisconsin/


2 posted on 04/18/2017 7:59:05 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

end the H1-B and H2-B visas programs NOW.

America FIRST


3 posted on 04/18/2017 7:59:33 PM PDT by sheehan (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS.)
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To: ForYourChildren

“President Donald Trump announced a new executive order to promote his America First agenda, ordering the federal government to implement his buy American, and hire American policies.”


4 posted on 04/18/2017 7:59:45 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

He needs to stop handing out work permits to illegal aliens under the illegal DACA program as well.


5 posted on 04/18/2017 8:07:56 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ForYourChildren

B-52 opening up an H1-B rat hole.

6 posted on 04/18/2017 8:08:23 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ForYourChildren
Although the H-1B visa is only meant to be used by a U.S. company when there are no American workers with the skill-set needed for the job, critics argue the program is riddled with abuse and fraud, leaving Americans to sometimes train their cheaper, foreign replacements before being fired.

How can anyone still even write or say that? It would be interesting to know all the legislative history of this law, but what is now meant is to allow US employers to use the H-1B program any damned way they choose to use it. It is obviously legal to do so. Otherwise, it would be illegal and lawsuits would have been filed by displaced Americans all over the country.

This is probably one of the most lied about government programs in existence, as the bolded disinformation above seems to have been spread far and wide.

7 posted on 04/18/2017 8:19:20 PM PDT by Will88
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Although the H-1B visa is only meant to be used by a U.S. company when there are no American workers with the skill-set needed for the job

How can anyone still even write or say that?

It is how the employer defines the skill-set. They make it such that no worker could possibly fulfill the requirements, but miraculously these Indian workers always fulfill the requirements. They are even "verified" by calling their "references" back in India ( most likely a call center of the "companies" with their fake resumes on file )

8 posted on 04/18/2017 8:30:36 PM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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The urgency of the outsourced hire should require the employer to pay 2x the normal average wage for that position. At least we’d know then the hire would be for skill purposes and not for wage stabilization.


9 posted on 04/18/2017 8:36:27 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: ForYourChildren

These bastard CEOs have been pushing the fantasy that the H1Bs they hire are the only “highly” qualified workers available. That is crap. Most of the H1Bs I’ve met and worked with could not pass a HS AP coding final exam...without cheating and these underqualified specimens are the ones being hired to replace qualified and experienced Americans. Ship them back to India to a job they’re qualified for...”Hello, my name is Ted and I’m calling from Microsoft Support”.


10 posted on 04/18/2017 8:46:13 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: sheehan

Ending the H1B program would require Congress, I think.

I wonder who decides what the “application fee” is for these ? Maybe it is within Trump’s power to raise the fee to $100K per visa. Let’s see how many businesses “really” can’t find American workers.


11 posted on 04/18/2017 8:58:49 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: Will88

The American workers are promised severance packages, but only if they sign an agreement to not sue. If they don’t sign or refuse to train their foreign replacements, no severance package.


12 posted on 04/18/2017 9:02:19 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I don’t think employers have to pay FICA for foreign workers, since they are not eligible for SS/M. The employers also treat the H1B workers like indentured servants — salary, not hourly, and work them more hours than the would an American. They may not even have to provide the same fringe benefits — 401k matching, pensions contributions, health insurance, etc. They can also hire a senior person into an H1B slot where the the job title is “Jr xxxxx” which means a lower “average wage”.

All in, H1B workers might still be considered a “bargain” at 2x the “average” salary of American workers.

I would just make the H1B Visa Application Fee $100K/yr per worker.


13 posted on 04/18/2017 9:09:49 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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>leaving Americans to sometimes train their cheaper, foreign replacements before being fired.<

This has often happened. Seen it done to my son in IT.


14 posted on 04/18/2017 9:27:46 PM PDT by 353FMG (AMERICA FIRST.)
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To: Kellis91789
I think you're right about the ancillary savings. But to be clear, my recommendation was for 2x the average salary for that position. So even as H1b hires continued, their salaries would help to push up costs of H1b employees.
15 posted on 04/18/2017 9:40:23 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Yes, the doubling would raise averages, except ... the employer could still fill a “Jr xxxx” position with an experienced H1B worker and then require they do “Sr” level work. So instead of a job that is really a $150K position if an American with ten years experience had it, they claim they only need a junior level person at $60K and bring in the ten year H1B worker at $60K to do that $150K job. Unless they complain about being required to do work above their pay grade, how would the government know ?

Beyond that, we are talking about less than 100K H1B workers, so they are not going to affect the averages very much in industries with millions workers.


16 posted on 04/18/2017 10:22:36 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: Kellis91789

Well I can say where I was, most of the IT was H1B or offshore.


17 posted on 04/18/2017 11:22:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Time to list the companies who do this hiring and boycott their products. This is the only thing these thugs understand.

We don’t need them or what they make. They should take their business somewhere outside the US!


18 posted on 04/19/2017 2:05:53 AM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is a globalist scam for power!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

In SoCal it always seemed like there were a lot of them, too. But the news keeps saying there are only 80,000 H1B visas issued each year, so maybe they are just more concentrated in areas we worked and other parts of the country have very few. Or maybe they don’t expire and that 80,000 builds up year after year ?

At any rate, money talks. Make the visa fee $100K per year for each of them and companies will have to be truly desperate to utilize H1B visas. Then put a tracking anklet on them a month before their visa expires so they don’t disappear into the woodwork.


19 posted on 04/19/2017 3:01:00 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: Kellis91789

Correct! Gone through that twice


20 posted on 04/19/2017 3:57:04 AM PDT by billphx (“Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face” Charlton Heston)
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