Who here, other than YOU, wouldn't be opposed to California seceding from the United States? Considering that California gave 55 electoral votes to Clinton as well as over 8,700,000 popular votes, you should be ecstatic over the possibility of them seceding from the United States.......I certainly am.
Say goodbye to America’s breadbasket. It would be worse than Russia losing Ukraine.
So you’d like to give away 10% of our populace, and roughly 10% of our national GNP?
California has the biggest GNP West of the Mississippi, coming in at roughly 1.5 times that of Texas, the nearest competitor. (It’s been a while since I looked it up, but I believe that was the general range)
What other states would you like to get rid of?
New York would be a good one.
Pretty soon you’ve just lopped off 30-50% of our GNP and populace.
The tax base is reduced by that much. How does that affect our ability to pay down the national debt or field a competitive military?
California has all our warm water ports to service our Pacific Fleet. And if you think California needs to go, that means Oregon and Washington would go too. They’re Leftist now also.
There, no Pacific fleet.
Hawaii would be gone in short order.
So what do we do, only continue with an Atlantic fleet in the future?
What happens when Russia or China swing deals with the former U. S. Western states? Do we then go to war with California and the other states to prevent it?
Do we simply allow foreign nations to develop bases on our Western flank?
This is not as easy as just lopping off states you don’t like.
It affects this nation much more negatively than putting up with an errant state does.
We need to work on bringing these states back into the Conservative camp.
Folks, we lost them. We can get them back.
Why is it that we tell folks we have the best possible system of government, and then feel that it can’t compete with the other form of governance?
It can. It just needs to be presented to people.
As a party, we have abandoned that for three decades.
“Who here, other than YOU, wouldn’t be opposed to California seceding from the United States?”
Me!
“you should be ecstatic over the possibility of them seceding from the United States.......I certainly am.”
I live and work in San Jose but have a future retirement home up in the Sierra in a very “red” area. Normally I’d be fine with the idea of the western part of CA seceding and the Sierra staying with the US.
But here’s the problem. The Lib areas are not fiscally sound or economically viable. So after they blow up into default, guess who’s ready to step in with a bail out in return for some military bases - the Chinese.
As much as I’d like to ditch the coastal libs, no one should want to let the door open to a foreign military presence in what was the 50 states.