US general says Russia has deployed banned missile

Stars and Stripes ^ | 8 Mar 2017 | Robert Burns

[elhombrelibre]

WASHINGTON — A senior U.S. general on Wednesday accused Russia of deploying a land-based cruise missile in violation of "the spirit and intent" of a nuclear arms treaty and charged that Moscow's intention is to threaten U.S. facilities in Europe and the NATO alliance.

"We believe that the Russians have deliberately deployed it in order to pose a threat to NATO and to facilities within the NATO area of responsibility," Gen. Paul Selva, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a House Armed Services Committee hearing.

[elhombrelibre]

Putin allowing a state-owned, putin-approved church, sure has bought him a lot of admirers. Freedom of conscience and real freedom of religion are not so important to some folks, as long as his church is nominally Christian he’s one of us. Putin controls the salaries and the sermons of the clergy, but he’s a swell paladin of Christ. Geez. I’m amazed at how many contortions some folks will go to to justify Putin’s behavior.

[elhombrelibre]

I do, but it is what it is. I do think the sea-based ones are more threatening and much more difficult to defend against.

[RedWulf]

>I do, but it is what it is. I do think the sea-based ones are more threatening and much more difficult to defend against.

The US has had total dominance in sea based cruise missile for decades. I’m guessing that the land based restriction was a bone tossed to the Russians back they couldn’t build computer controlled cruise missles and also why no one really cares about them building them now.

If you want a destabilizing tech that would be stealth cruise missiles. There are rumors that both sides have developed them.

[elhombrelibre]

The same people who will laugh and scoff at NATO for being weak will tell you that Russia is right to feel threatened. Our self-defense is a problem mentally as much as materially. And Putin’s actions will likely lead to an arms race with Europe that he cannot win. His GDP is the size of Spain’s. His chauvinism will not do anything but make Russia even poorer.

[1rudeboy]

As much as I dislike Russia, I don’t see how a treaty made with a different and defunct country (the U.S.S.R) applies to them now.

The Soviet Union's successor (Russia) simply has to announce it is withdrawing from the Treaty. Yet it has not, meaning that the treaty is still in effect.

[1rudeboy]

It’s not that complicated. Does the missile have a range between “310 and 3,410 miles?” If so, then it violates the “spirit and intent” of the agreement. This stuff is not rocket science [pun intended].

[1rudeboy]

Derp.

[SecondAmendment]

For those who have commented about this, I have found some scholarly research which seems to support my assertion that a treaty lapses when a country ceases to exist:

http://digitalcommons.wcl.american.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1216&context=auilr

[Ouderkirk]

So, in a sense all of the treaties signed by the Commies of the late USSR are non-operative since the successor government is not obligated to uphold any of their provisions.

It’s an interesting read in the link...Thanks for that.

[1rudeboy]

You found a law review article about international law. Wow. I wonder if I could find a law review article that argues that the Second Amendment applies only to the militia.

[Wpin]

If one cannot accurately understand a situation...the situation will not get fixed. Just spewing words won’t help, one needs to recognize motivating factors. The real enemy is the Democrat party. They are the biggest threat to America.

[Wpin]

“Putin allowing a state-owned, putin-approved church, sure has bought him a lot of admirers. Freedom of conscience and real freedom of religion are not so important to some folks, as long as his church is nominally Christian he’s one of us. Putin controls the salaries and the sermons of the clergy, but he’s a swell paladin of Christ. Geez. I’m amazed at how many contortions some folks will go to to justify Putin’s behavior”

Lot of assertions, but do you have anything to back them up? Or, is it just your two cents worth?

[elhombrelibre]

If you're against tyranny, you'll have no problem finding plenty of reason to agree with me about Putin. If it's merely a figure of speech, then you'll not get it. You merely need to do a little research, and reach the logical conclusion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulcoyer/2015/05/21/unholy-alliance-vladimir-putin-and-the-russian-orthodox-church/#55d2376e27d5

[elhombrelibre]

"Russia's Newest Law: No Evangelizing Outside of Church"

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/june/no-evangelizing-outside-of-church-russia-proposes.html

That's not religious freedom. That's a state-sponsored and one religion policy.

[elhombrelibre]

More evidence from Breitbart:

Putin Signs Measure Revoking Religious Freedom: ‘Most Restrictive in Post-Soviet History’

http://www.breitbart.com/faith/2016/07/10/putin-signs-measure-revoking-religious-freedom/

[elhombrelibre]

"‘Back to the Soviet Era’: Putin’s New Law Could Lead to Religious Crackdown"

http://dailysignal.com/2016/07/20/back-to-the-soviet-era-putins-new-law-could-lead-to-religious-crackdown

[elhombrelibre]

"Putin Goes to War With Russia’s Free Churches"

http://www.newsweek.com/putin-goes-war-russia-free-churches-482730

[elhombrelibre]

"Dispense with the Man-Crushes: Putin’s Russia Is Cracking Down on Christianity" - CNSNEWS

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/eric-metaxas/dispense-man-crushes-putins-russia-cracking-down-christianity

[elhombrelibre]

You want more? Here is more:

"Russia: Church reacts as ‘anti-missionary bill’ becomes law"

https://www.worldwatchmonitor.org/2016/07/4555259/

[elhombrelibre]

"Putin’s holy war"

http://www.politico.eu/article/putins-holy-war/