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The battle for Obamacare Light begins. I'm still reading the bill. It is available at the link.

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1 posted on 03/06/2017 3:13:27 PM PST by gwjack
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The battle for Obamacare Light begins.

Might as well call it Trumpcare. They will.

43 posted on 03/06/2017 4:12:04 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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oh my goodness. i’m only about 10 pages in. and skipping around. you have to reread obamacare to tell what’s in this. it’s working off obamacare.

just one section 134 (the BS bronze, silver, gold, platinum plans 4 sizes fit all section) tells you this is not immediate and not a true repeal. gotta wait until 2020 (oh good grief after the election). this is basically amending obamacare to fake a repeal.

for example *sunsetting* in sect 134:

“...(and such a requirement shall be applied as
if this section had been repealed).”

SEC. 134. INCREASING COVERAGE OPTIONS.
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Section 1302 of the Patient Protection and Afford-
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able Care Act (42 U.S.C. 18022) is amended—
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(1) in subsection (a)(3), by inserting ‘‘and with
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respect to a plan year before plan year 2020’’ after
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‘‘subsection (e)’’; and
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(2) in subsection (d), by adding at the end the
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following:
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‘‘(5) S
UNSET
.—The provisions of this sub-
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section shall not apply after December 31, 2019,
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and after such date any reference to this subsection
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or level of coverage or plan described in this sub-
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section and any requirement under law applying
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such a level of coverage or plan shall have no force
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or effect (and such a requirement shall be applied as
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if this section had been repealed).’’.


46 posted on 03/06/2017 4:13:52 PM PST by dadfly
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Paul has the support of the 40 vote bloc House Freedom Caucus, and Senators Mike Lee and Ted Cruz vowed last week to oppose any proposal that did not meet the bare minimum of the Obamacare repeal passed in 2015. Paul, Lee and Cruz alone could potentially block any Obamacare proposal passed by the House if it does not meet their standards. “Republicans would likely need 50 of the 52 GOP senators to vote for a repeal-and-replace bill, so the trio could sink any proposal they dislike,” Politico noted Monday.
linky

55 posted on 03/06/2017 4:16:47 PM PST by cornelis
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IMHO I think there will be a lot of changes to this bill by the time it comes up for a vote.


59 posted on 03/06/2017 4:21:56 PM PST by Parley Baer
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so far this look like an expansion of little tweaks for obamacare.

and what the hell is this messing with Social Security?

(c) SUNSET OF
ESSENTIAL
HEALTH
BENEFITS
REQUIREMENT
.—Section 1937(b)(5) of the Social Security
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Act (42 U.S.C. 1396u–7(b)(5)) is amended by adding at
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the end the following: ‘‘This paragraph shall not apply
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after December 31, 2019.’’.
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62 posted on 03/06/2017 4:29:35 PM PST by dadfly
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Obamacare’s replacement explained “We begin by repealing the awful taxes,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSTD-Lo8P5o


63 posted on 03/06/2017 4:30:46 PM PST by Valin
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The GOPe completely accepted the Dumbocrat framing of this issue. “Oh, dear, we can’t take health insurance away from 20 million people!” But yes, we can and we should. Nothing keeps most of them from figuring out a way to maintain their health without stealing tax dollars. If we “take away” the immoral, illegal and unconstitutional government-steals-money-for-you option, people would be forced to be creative. That is how it should be: Everybody looks out for himself and doesn’t ask for anything from anybody else. If you have faith in God, He will provide. And if He doesn’t, then God has His reasons. TRUST GOD, not the government!


69 posted on 03/06/2017 4:51:55 PM PST by GodAndCountryFirst
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Looks to me like this is aimed primarily at the problems the STATE GOVERNMENTS are having with it.

From the summary:

Citizens AND Legal residents (ie. refugees, people on visas) are all eligible.

No change to purchasing insurance across state lines

No applying the antitrust laws to medical device and pharmaceutical countries.

No repeal of the mandate. no mention of repeal of the tax for non-payment - just allowing for a 30% price penalty for late enrollment.

No mention of the ‘death panels’ (and everything not mentioned stands.

No mention of all the other things ‘christmas treed’ onto the ACA - like government takeover of student loans

Definitely not a repeal - just a tweak. Republicans are cowards, afraid of the free market.

74 posted on 03/06/2017 5:08:35 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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Repeal now.

Replace, well, maybe later. Or not. Don’t much care.

I PREFER FREEDOM FROM GOVERNMENT!


75 posted on 03/06/2017 5:15:20 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (The Washington Post is Jeff Bezos' Fake News unregulated SuperPAC.)
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Thank you for referencing that article gwjack. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

From the referenced article …

"But in recent months, since President Donald Trump took office, GOP members of Congress have increasingly been confronted by constituents worried about the prospect of losing insurance gained through Obamacare [emphasis added].” — CNBC: House GOP releases plan to repeal, replace Obamacare

The MAJOR constitutional problem with federal government regulation of insurance is the following. A previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that insurance policies are a contract, not commerce, regardless if the parties establishing a contract are domiciled in different states.

"4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract [emphases added] of indemnity against loss.” —Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)

So regulating insurance is not in the scope of Congress’s Commerce powers. The states would therefore need to expressly amend the Constitution to grant Congress the specific power to regulate insurance imo.

Corrections, insights welcome.

In fact, note that former Speaker Pelosi seems to have ignored a resolution for proposing a healthcare amendment to the Constitution to the states before she irresponsibly rammed Obamacare through the House.

H.J.Res. 30 (111th): Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States regarding the right of citizens of the United States to health care of equal high quality

A proposed amendment perhaps should include a provision that granted the feds the specific power to regulate INTRAstate healthcare insurance.

Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!

Remember in November ’18 !

Since Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.

Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist justices off of the bench.

Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed below.


76 posted on 03/06/2017 5:32:15 PM PST by Amendment10
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Five pages about lottery winners to be included or excluded. Face Palm. P. 11-16.


79 posted on 03/06/2017 5:45:15 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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Here is the entire text of the BILL...all 123 pages of it.

Lawyers have at it...it gave this layperson a huge headache!

86 posted on 03/06/2017 7:06:12 PM PST by luvie (Be still and know that I Am GOD.....Psalm 46:10)
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This will help small businesses...and part time workers who under obamacare couldn’t work over 29 hours or their employer had to provide insurance for them. My company’s employees suffered because of that dumb rule.

“And, it would eliminate the Affordable Care Act rule that currently requires employers with 50 or more full-time workers to offer them affordable health coverage or pay a financial penalty.”


87 posted on 03/06/2017 7:12:34 PM PST by luvie (Be still and know that I Am GOD.....Psalm 46:10)
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"Our Socialism works better than their Socialism."
-- Republican Wing of the Establishment
89 posted on 03/06/2017 8:05:04 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (I told you so)
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as an example of how horrible this is, i’m looking at the tortured the way they’re trying to limit taxpayer funded abortion by cutting out sections of ACA. but in the end, they still have the allowance for abortion (rape, incest, or health). and then it looks like they go out of their way to make sure they’re supporting injury from abortion. ryan, mcconnell and crew are sick. anyway, so the gope will still drag us into the abortion business.

again, if the market wants non-essential services of this type. then let the public by it.


90 posted on 03/06/2017 8:16:08 PM PST by dadfly
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95 posted on 03/07/2017 12:36:44 AM PST by TheNext ("PULL THE ABC BROADCAST LICENSE!" "Give it to TEA Party.")
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Here are comments from Kevin Brady( house ways and means)on Hugh Hewitt’s show this AM:

http://www.hughhewitt.com/house-ways-means-chair-kevin-brady-new-gop-bill/


105 posted on 03/07/2017 7:01:56 AM PST by pugmama (Ports Moon.)
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THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!

Throw out their RINO-Care with them!

The feds have no constitutional authority to be meddling in healthcare.

Healthcare needs to be run by the free market economy which gave America the best, most affordable, most available healthcare in the world until the feds began rooting around and screwing it up.

109 posted on 03/07/2017 8:16:00 AM PST by Jim W N
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118 posted on 03/07/2017 11:47:51 PM PST by vikingrinn
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Trump Says He Supports House Obamacare Replacement Plan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecrip3DfZnU

HHS Secretary Tom Price Explains President Trump’s American Health Care Act After Repeal Of Obamcare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ_SgHq-lQM


119 posted on 03/08/2017 6:41:34 AM PST by Valin
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