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1 posted on 02/27/2017 7:27:20 AM PST by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

And almost every one of the lying bastards has promised to “repeal Obamacare”. How many repeal bills were voted on or proposed with widespread Republican support when Obama was in office...?

Window dressing, every single time.


2 posted on 02/27/2017 7:31:50 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: GIdget2004

The devil will be in the details of said bill. While they appear to doing the right thing, I don’t trust Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.


3 posted on 02/27/2017 7:32:28 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: GIdget2004

What cowards. What does the word “pledge” mean to these people?


4 posted on 02/27/2017 7:34:21 AM PST by wiseprince
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To: GIdget2004

“You’re a Republican, you’ve been running to repeal Obamacare, they put a repeal bill in front of you... Are you going to be the Republican senator who prevents Obamacare repeal from being sent to a Republican president who is willing to sign it?”


They only need 2 in the Senate to stop repeal. This is plan is DOA and the GOPe know it. We are being played. Again. The exempt beltway GOPe loves kenyancare too much to ever really repeal it.


5 posted on 02/27/2017 7:34:49 AM PST by lodi90
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To: GIdget2004

Something definitely has to be done. Probably the major reason we are looking at a $20T deficit is because we started borrowing from ourselves 70 years ago.

The current drain on social security and medicare to fill the blanks financially for the losses lied about from the libs healthcare act has greatly increased the loss of these funds to the point where they will go insolvent shortly and requiring adjustments that would have been started in 2022 are now pushed forward to late this year. And again, these funds were earmarked for the people that earned and donated it for their purposes and so the feds could invest it and make money they took from the same possibility of the ones that earned it. Not for the people who didn’t do what they should have done or are illegally in the country and either see a free trip or can’t help themselves and would have been eligible for the funds anyway if they had been in here legally.

red


9 posted on 02/27/2017 7:39:18 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: GIdget2004

Why not use the one that they used when they knew it would be vetoed or voted down in the Senate? (No need to answer. This is rhetorical.)


11 posted on 02/27/2017 7:44:24 AM PST by Ingtar (.)
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To: GIdget2004

There have been so many rumors. Most probably aren’t true, or only get at part of the truth. I’m willing to wait to see what happens before I start getting too worked up.


12 posted on 02/27/2017 7:44:29 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: GIdget2004

Submit the exact bills Republicans submitted to 0bama!!!


14 posted on 02/27/2017 7:46:01 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Drain the swamp. Build the wall. Open the Pizzagate. I refuse to inhabit any safe space.)
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To: GIdget2004

Sit down with the insurance people and work it out. This is not that big a problem. Only the politicians think it is and are afraid to move ahead.


15 posted on 02/27/2017 7:48:17 AM PST by mulligan
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To: GIdget2004

Not too bad of an idea.

I would do my part and call any morons opposed to it.


16 posted on 02/27/2017 7:51:14 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: GIdget2004

Trump really needs to get a new party started by 2020.

The GOP truly is irredeemable.


20 posted on 02/27/2017 7:57:38 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: GIdget2004

just repeal the POS already! Don’t need to ‘replace” it with anything. Just block grant Medicaid out to the States, enable competition across state lines and be done with it! The Market will fix itself.


22 posted on 02/27/2017 8:04:46 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: GIdget2004
Dubya the Duplicitous in 2011:
President Bush broke his self-imposed silence in January 2011, in a speech at Southern Methodist University. The only problem was, he wasn’t attacking Obama, but conservatives. Addressing the immigration debate, he said: “(I)f you study history, there are some ‘isms’ that occasionally pop up … One is isolationism and its evil twin protectionism and its evil triplet nativism.”

These were potent insults directed at millions of hard-working patriots who helped elect him twice to the White House. Elites in both parties gleefully gobbled it up.


27 posted on 02/27/2017 8:20:32 AM PST by SeafoodGumbo
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I will say it again, OBAMACARE WILL NEVER BE REPEALED in any way, shape or fashion.

There is ONLY ONE WAY to make it happen:

Executive Order
1. There shall be NO funds drawn from the treasury to pay for Health Insurance for ANY Federal Employee except Members of the Armed Services.

2. ALL Federal Employees except members of the US Armed Services, SHALL purchase their own personal and Family Health Insurance from the Affordable Care Exchange in the state they legally reside.

And to make sure it is Bipartisan, President Trump should VETO it every Time and FORCE them to Override his Veto to Repeal this Monstrosity.

Sign these 2 orders and it will be FULLY REPEALED in Less than 30 days.

NOT UNTIL, Anyone want to make a BET???

I would also consider another Executive Order Withholding All Transportation Funds from All States that do Not have Their Public Employees enrolled in Obamacare, just to Prove a Point.


30 posted on 02/27/2017 8:24:04 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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I said they should have done this on day one, people argued with me, now this might fail.

If they had done this on day one, repeal it on day one, we would now be talking about market reforms to improve the system.


31 posted on 02/27/2017 8:35:28 AM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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Trump could have gone down as the Big Hero if he would have the AG start using Sherman Anti-Trust and Wright-Patman to break up the medical monopolies and see real cost for health care drop, maybe as much as 80%.

No that is not going to happen and what we will get is a new screw up to replace Obamacare that will keep us on the road to absolute Fiscal Ruin.

My opinion all along is that we would see Rationed Health care with 75 Million Baby Boomers hitting the system. I still think the end game will be a single-payor system, but we may be bankrupt by that time.

If we don’t take the limited window we have now to reform the health care system and deal with the Debt, and Deficit our future as a country will be in jeopardy.

It is also possible the last move of the Fed might be inflation to deal with the debt and deficit, the question is will it get out of control like in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s. It’s a high wire act they can’t pull off, then back to high interest rates to stop all the destruction.

How in the Hell does one invest for these disasters??????


32 posted on 02/27/2017 8:46:20 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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One of the main reasons the GOP Leadership could be reluctant to get rid of Obama Care just yet is pure politics. Since the law was enacted, over 1,000 Democrats have lost their seats nationwide. All the review of election data shows that Obama Care is the central issue in taking down Democrats. It’s been the electoral gift that’s kept on giving. It seems logical the GOP Leadership wants to keep it a little longer because in 2018, 23 Senate Democrats are up for reelection, which is 50% of their Senate caucus. Ten of them are in states Trump won. They may want to keep it for just that much longer, create an actual 60-vote super majority in the Senate and then roll out whatever they want, with Democrats unable to stop anything. Much like when the Democrats had all of this in 2009. That could well be the reason they want it to hang around. It’s paid off handsomely for them, and they may want the last act climax to play out in 2018. Repealing it now only saves Democrats from having to defend their support for the disasters they unleashed when so many of them are sitting ducks two years from now.


34 posted on 02/27/2017 9:03:10 AM PST by antonico
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To: GIdget2004

I’d like to see some massive Trump waivers to break this logjam. Pattern them off the Obama waivers for unions and others with connections. Clearly reference the precedent being followed, and make the Trump waivers from Obamacare (1) universal, and (2) permanent.

Once every business and individual has a perpetual waiver, the gutless RINOs will no longer have an incentive to block repeal. They can do the right thing without risk - which RINOs will hate, but at least they will do the right thing.


35 posted on 02/27/2017 9:06:02 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: GIdget2004
These back-stabbing traitors were real fast to pass everything conservatives wanted when they knew Obama would veto it.

It's quite simple, really. If Republican leadership can't find a way to keep their membership in line and get things passed, we might as well hand DC to the dems. The phonies know who got them elected. Time to put up or shut up when they go down in flames.

Hint...NH Conservatives, I'm sure, knew the risk it was to the majority to vote out backstabber Kelly Ayotte. She wasn't worth saving.

36 posted on 02/27/2017 9:06:37 AM PST by grania
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