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Michigan appeals court rejects Jill Stein's recount as unlawful
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Posted on 12/06/2016 4:00:31 PM PST by roostercogburn

Just came across wires.... recount stopped by state appeals court!


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; election; hillary; michigan; micourtofappeals; recount; stein; trump
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To: Iscool

The judge did not force anyone to do anything. I doubt the state can make anyone count ballots against their will.


301 posted on 12/06/2016 9:47:21 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: roostercogburn

This was obvious, her own legal team was telling her this. This was never about winning an election, that ship has sailed and is halfway to The Orient. This recount effort was just something to get the troops out of their basements and back on the streets fired up.


302 posted on 12/06/2016 10:05:01 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

There’s also a federal case. The state case just got stopped. Will the ICC get involved next?


303 posted on 12/06/2016 10:27:20 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Thibodeaux

Yes the judge is exceeding his authority. They are proceeding at the threat of being jailed, correct?

We are at a time where we need to not be so intimidated over threats of jail when they are clearly in the wrong and overstepping their authority.

Fear of jail and lawsuits is how we have arrived at the age of judicial tyranny.


304 posted on 12/06/2016 10:32:03 PM PST by del4hope
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To: FredZarguna
However, he has no authority over Michigan election law whatsoever, unless someone can prove to him that MI law violates equal protection, due process, or some other part of the US Constitution. No one has made that argument.

You are assuming people who abide by normal rules of jurisprudence. On the other hand, these folks are the same people who found "a right to privacy" in the U.S. Constitution and twisted that into the right to kill babies who had the unfortunate circumstance of not yet being born.

Yes, "No one has made that argument". Yet, we both know that there is a high probability that someone will. And at that point, "prove" becomes a wax nose (to use a figure of speech from theological terminology).

305 posted on 12/06/2016 10:54:05 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: VanDeKoik

Wait, WHO’S ON FIRST? I DONT KNOW. THIRD BASE!!


306 posted on 12/06/2016 11:41:23 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: VanDeKoik; All

I think I read somewhere that the difference between them in Michigan is only about 10,000 votes.


307 posted on 12/07/2016 1:19:53 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: wejustorderedbisque

I’m impressed with Schuette too.
My brother says the next GOP primary for governor will be Schuette vs. Calley (Calley refused to support Trump).


308 posted on 12/07/2016 4:53:33 AM PST by Tigercap
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To: MaxistheBest

I’m for that. I see it (electoral/voter fraud) as being at least an obstruction of justice.


309 posted on 12/07/2016 4:58:18 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: MarMema

We get it. You have a judge who may not respect the law. If he continues to hold Michigan hostage, is impeachment the only solution?
Michigan needs to start collecting documentation on this “judge”.


310 posted on 12/07/2016 5:11:15 AM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: madison10

Thanks for your work. See post #304


311 posted on 12/07/2016 5:17:03 AM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: the_Watchman
Yes, "No one has made that argument". Yet, we both know that there is a high probability that someone will. And at that point, "prove" becomes a wax nose (to use a figure of speech from theological terminology).

Yes, thank you!!! The dissenting 6th circuit judge made it quite clear that Goldsmith went way above and beyond to punish the state of Michigan, presumably for voting Trump.

Many here are acting like this judge wants to do the right thing. Guess again.

312 posted on 12/07/2016 6:46:13 AM PST by MarMema ("you can't make up...a constitutional right to a recount" Beloved Mi AG Bill Schuette)
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To: the_Watchman
It is a beautifully written dissent and points well to the powerlust and arrogance of Goldsmith.

Because it is obvious that the district court overstepped its bounds in numerous ways by inserting itself into what were orderly election processes in accordance with state law, I dissent from the denial of the motion to stay.

"...even though a temporary restraining order is an extraordinary remedy designed for the limited purpose of preserving the status quo pending further proceedings on the merits, the district court peremptorily intervened to disrupt the status quo. And the court did so on the thinnest of legal foundations—based on a speculative showing of harm and undefined showing of legal entitlement to relief."

"a district judge has seen fit to deploy the judicial power of the federal sovereign to intrude upon proceedings under state law that are traditionally entrusted to the states . . . simply because he thinks, in regard to a statutory two-day period (!), that he has a better idea than the elected representatives of the people of the State of Michigan . . . and because he can"

"By ordering continuation and completion of the recount by December 13, the court purported to assert “power” in excess even of the “authority” it had illegitimately claimed for itself. This overreach should be seen for what it is: a naked and illegitimate power grab that should stand as no impediment to the state courts’ orderly adjudication of the state law issues before them in accordance with state law."

"By issuing the temporary restraining order, the district court abused its discretion. By refusing to stay this judicial overreach, the majority perpetuates, and lends the Sixth Circuit’s imprimatur to, modern confusion surrounding the federal courts’ limited oversight of state election processes. I respectfully dissent."

313 posted on 12/07/2016 6:59:40 AM PST by MarMema ("you can't make up...a constitutional right to a recount" Beloved Mi AG Bill Schuette)
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To: FredZarguna

Stein’s Lawyers will argue that they haven’t exhausted their legal remedies in MI,

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After the MI Supreme Court there ARE no other remedies in MI.


314 posted on 12/07/2016 7:05:10 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: MarMema

He also said that the recount should continue until his court said otherwise. Arrogant jerk
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Arrogant? Sure but what he means (I think) is that since he is the one who ordered the recount to start, he should be the one to order it stopped.


315 posted on 12/07/2016 7:08:12 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: LS

Like watching the Packers play the Eagles

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Easy one for me. As a NYG fan it’s “GO PACK!!!”


316 posted on 12/07/2016 7:09:53 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: MarMema

Thank you for including these quotations from the 6th Circuit dissent.

Unfortunately, it indirectly proves my point. I believe the most of us on this forum would agree with the arguments on this dissent stating that Goldsmith injected himself into what is inherently a state issue.

However, if this is the dissenting opinion, then the majority of the 6th Circuit justices do not agree and were willing to let Goldsmith contravene state law in the matter of the recount delay. If they were willing to allow that level of injection, then they will probably be willing to inject themselves, later.


317 posted on 12/07/2016 9:45:38 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman

Yes!! Sigh. They let it go and now they will let him go again. Mark my words. He will issue later today to keep the recount in place and all of ypu living in some mythical paradise where the rule of law matters will then say oh now xXxX will fix it.

But we will still be recounting.


318 posted on 12/07/2016 10:32:17 AM PST by MarMema ("you can't make up...a constitutional right to a recount" Beloved Mi AG Bill Schuette)
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To: the_Watchman
I also agree with the dissent

My point is that none of pur beliefs matter. That has always been my point. This jacka** judge will do whar he wants.

319 posted on 12/07/2016 10:34:34 AM PST by MarMema ("you can't make up...a constitutional right to a recount" Beloved Mi AG Bill Schuette)
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To: Swanks

I prefer one from Column B.


320 posted on 12/07/2016 11:56:39 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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