To: little jeremiah
We will probably never know how the coup came about.
It is possible that the Obama admin colluded with Erdogan to lead on coup plotters, to draw them out for elimination, and as a pretext for seizing more power by Erdogan.
If so, it would just be one more example of Obama spiking the cannons before leaving office, denying future administrations the tools of US influence that have been built up over generations (like the total exposure of the NSA’s capabilities, and turning the Internet’s ICAAN over to international management, gutting the military, etc.). It seemed that the admin coming out in support of Erdogan was also a turning point in the coup.
I really have no indication that this was the case, but I would not expect to have indications, if it were true.
To: BeauBo
Cole Bunzel @colebunzel
Erdogan issues warning: "I have a message for Pennsylvania: You have engaged in enough treason against this nation" http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/world/europe/turkey-attempted-coup-erdogan.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-
1,248 posted on
07/16/2016 11:53:03 AM PDT by
jennychase
( Vote Trump Or get Ready for President Hillary)
To: BeauBo
I read elsewhere that soldiers who were manning the tank/s on a bridge in Istanbul, as they surrendered to the thugs, were heard to say that they thought it was an exercise. If you want verification, I can look for it.
To me that clearly says Erdog arranged.
Plud so many other oddities - it made no sense to me last night, so many just surrendering, and the quite feeble attempt, and the huge list of judges and mil Erdog had in his pocket to purge.
1,254 posted on
07/16/2016 2:15:27 PM PDT by
little jeremiah
(Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
To: BeauBo; little jeremiah
I can't prove but now strongly suspect that the "coup" was some sort of false flag/provocation. There were real plotters, but they were provoked or shaped by Erdogan forces. The coup leaders acted either totally prematurely (perhaps to pre-empt what Erdogan was up to) or with false confidence about who was on their side. Erdogan knew what they were doing and perhaps even shaped it.
Appears that Erdogan is in control and purging the hell out of both the military and the judiciary. Rumors that Erdogan may have guided or provoked a hopeless "coup" to provide a pretext for the massive pro-Islamist purge he was ready to do. THOUSANDS in the judiciary and the military have been rounded up... how many will be executed? How many will rot in horrible Turkish prisons for years or decades?
Reportedly at least 6,000 rounded up now by Erdogan, 2700+ in judiciary and thousands more in military.
Modern day Reichstag Fire turns into Night of Long Knives?
REICHSTAG FIRE (1933):
NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES (1934):
1,258 posted on
07/17/2016 12:20:18 AM PDT by
Enchante
(Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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