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The article is more about the reaction to Mr. Wilcox's argument for marriage. I am not a half believer in the benefits. Mr. Wolcox commits a correlation is causation error. Women given their tendency towards hypergamy will only marry men who have the characteristics that are associated with higher socioeconomic status or already achieve higher socioeconomic status. Therefore, marriage is more a signal than a reason. I do not support people like Mr. Wilcox who blame men for not "manning up" for the decline in marriage. It is a two way street or as Spengler’s Universal Law of Gender Parity states:

“In every corner of the world and in every epoch of history, the men and women of every culture deserve each other. ”

1 posted on 05/20/2016 7:34:08 AM PDT by C19fan
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Women have been taught to believe that a pre-nub is offensive to them. They freak out if a regular guy with normal assets even thinks of asking for one.

That may need to change if women wish to be married. This court thing has simply gone too far. The fastest way back would be for women to simply get used to the idea of getting it all in writing first.


88 posted on 05/20/2016 8:31:25 AM PDT by The Toll
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This all can be traced back to when they allowed women to vote.

Before that, all the crazy ones did to occupy their time was to b*tch and moan in temperance societies.


90 posted on 05/20/2016 8:32:56 AM PDT by fruser1
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I advise every young man who will listen: Take your future into your own hands and put on a rubber.

And never, ever marry.

Because our society has in fact made it a legal slavery.

93 posted on 05/20/2016 8:35:44 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Any man (or woman for that matter) who goes through a divorce can experience healing by attending this weekend. Find one in your area and give yourself the gift of this weekend.

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94 posted on 05/20/2016 8:36:42 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I've had the good fortune of knowing several families created by arranged marriages of virgin women. The men, women, and children are far happier than any normal marriage I've observed. The women always view marriage as a step up and thus respect and obey their husbands. The men view home as a save place to relax and be loved and never have to fight their wives and can focus on their careers. The children are very secure in their roll in the family.

The contrast to the standard American marriage is striking.

102 posted on 05/20/2016 8:43:33 AM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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What is the purpose of marriage nowadays? Is it just a bucket list thing? Remember the days when it had to do with offspring(not the band)?

The problem with the left is a total disregard of biology. Chromosomes don't determine sex, feelings do. Reproduction, according to the state, is inconsequential and 'love' and 'feelings' are paramount.

So it is difficult to talk about the 'mating game' and men going there own way without going back to a time when marriage had a purpose. With that in mind we can never forget that the eukaryote has always been at war with the eusocial.

Nothing destroys a man's wealth faster than a failed marriage. And today, women have all the power and with that have no incentive to stay in a marriage if it gets in trouble. Since women have no incentive to stay in a marriage, men have no incentive in joining one.

So, if the benefit of the whole does not disrupt the benefit of the individual, more men might be enticed into getting married and starting a family. But those days are gone.

106 posted on 05/20/2016 8:45:49 AM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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I had not heard of MGTOW and went to check it out - only to get this message:

Websites are turned off. An administrator can turn them on using the Server application.

Whatever that means . . .

110 posted on 05/20/2016 8:52:01 AM PDT by pilipo (We are not free.)
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Economic and social Lysistrata and ostracism from men: turn-about is fairplay.
Be careful what you wish(ed) for, ladies.


114 posted on 05/20/2016 8:55:30 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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In the video, I noted, among other things, that married men work harder (about 400 more hours), smarter (they’re less likely to quit without having found another job), and more successfully (they make about $16,000 more per year) than their single peers.

...

Yet the single men are happier and not as stressed out.


116 posted on 05/20/2016 8:57:41 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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20% of the children born are not to the Father to which the woman is married. Divorce laws favor the woman. My first wife cheated and embezzled money and I still lost everything and was lucky to keep what I had after she claimed many things that were not true; as it is the judges believe the woman over the man even if there is no proof. I married again with a wonderful woman but she died. Since then dating has been a downward spiral as the women out there are selfish and untrustworthy. I believe in the websites NoMarriage.com and Capt Marriage as they are pretty radical but dead on with respect to the females.
131 posted on 05/20/2016 9:10:55 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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I'll be married 30 years this September. Having been married this long (and having dated my wife for 6 years before we got married, for a total of 36 years together) I am more than qualified to comment on this article.

Yes, marriage has benefits. The article documents them fairly well so no need to go into them.

I'll simply answer the question that every single married man eventually asks themselves if they're married long enough:

Yes. They all are. Welcome to the club. Find a hobby, develop external friendships, get out of the house a few nights a week to save your sanity.

For those of you men who aren't married and reading this, I'm going to break the married men code here and tell you what the question is?

Are they ALL bat-shit crazy?

Yes. They all are. Welcome to the club. They get that way after children and are on the verge of becoming empty nesters with you. Their hormones go nuts during "the change" and they begin to question EVERYTHING including the choices they've made about having children, raising them, putting careers on hold, wanting to resume a career and then realizing they're pretty much dependent on you for their own financial well being. That's when they feel "trapped" and start regretting every decision they've ever made.

Do yourself a favor: get out of her way and let her figure things out for herself. Don't try and "fix" her, she's not "fixable" in the traditional sense that we poor men know how to fix things like our cars, computers, stuff around the house, etc.. Keep your mouth shut, say as little as possible and find a hobby, preferably that involve other men and getting out of the house at least two nights a week "with the guys."

Hobbies help us keep our minds occupied while they "figure it out" and there's safety in numbers with other men who've also figured out by now (or soon will...) that yes, they're all bat-shit crazy.

Trust me on this. I'm in the middle of it right now. Every single guy I know has either been through the same thing already and come out the other side ok, or will be going through it soon and is seeking out advice.

If you want to know why men become woman haters, it happens during their going bat-shit crazy phase. They ALL do it, they ALL are.

137 posted on 05/20/2016 9:18:39 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Bmk


138 posted on 05/20/2016 9:19:56 AM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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In today’s world, marriage is a risky business venture. As someone who practices family law, I can tell you all of the war stories, but the problem lies with the no fault divorce.

Prior to the no fault regime, if you wanted a divorce you had to prove a “cause” such as adultery, insanity, incarceration, physical abuse, etc. Also, there was an action for alienation of affection. That meant that if you screwed around, the jilted spouse could bring a civil action against you for breaking up the family. Additionally, there was the social stigma of divorce. When you combine all of this, you get a strong incentive to maintain the marriage.

In the current world, people simply get tired of each other. They go to court on the grounds of irreconcilable differences, and boom, divorce is granted. Of course, there are arguments about custody and property, but it is pretty cut and dry: the community property will be divided, the kids go to mom, and the dad will pay child support at a predetermined statutory rate. It really is that simple.

I can tell you personally that in my practice, I have noticed that women are much more likely to file for divorce than men. Men might be unhappy or disappointed, but they fight like hell to keep the family together, even after catching the woman in an affair. Women on the other had have ever economic advantage to the divorce. They’ll get maintenance, child support, half of the property, and most likely qualify for every government program under the sun.

But then, once the woman is on their own, they realize that even with the man paying child support and uncle same footing part of the bill, its still not enough to get by. This is when the woman will usually, ape to the lowest common denominator and shack up with the first man that offers her the opportunity. This is where it get dangerous for the kids because the woman is willing to overlook character flaws in the man in the name of economic security (think drunk, physical/verbal abuser, sexual pervert, etc I’ve seen it all).

So, you wonder why men are ticked at women when their ex-wife takes half of their property, 1/3 of their paycheck, the kids, and shacks up with some drunk loser that slaps his kids around? You wonder why the younger generation that grew in that environment or have been exposed to it have a grudge against women and marriage?


160 posted on 05/20/2016 9:37:39 AM PDT by WilliamCooper1
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I cannot remember the last time I knew a Couple that had not lived together before getting Married. In fact, I know a few Couples that got Married after having a Child, not before or even during the Pregnancy.

There used to be a whole bunch of six Month “Full Term” Pregnancies in the day. Now they make Wedding Gowns with Elastic Waist Bands.

Heck, on this very Conservative Forum there are many people who choose to cohabitate with their significant other without the benefit of Marriage.

Not being Judgmental since I did the same over 30 Years ago. My Mother was not pleased and I’m a Guy. #;^)

That was never considered a Conservative Value but times have changed.

Time to face the fact that the goal of Marriage is becoming an afterthought in a Relationship, unless you’re Gay of course.


167 posted on 05/20/2016 9:39:41 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary Clinton has killed four more People than Three Mile Island.)
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My wife of three years left me a few months ago. The pain only seems to increase as time goes on :( after She left, and during one of my “pleading sessions” she said she regarded the marriage as “an experiment” that didn’t work out for her. She seemed flabbergasted when I scolded her for using such a cold term. She said it in two occasions, thereafter. These women REALLY know how to hurt a guy :(


174 posted on 05/20/2016 9:51:40 AM PDT by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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Bfl


180 posted on 05/20/2016 9:53:46 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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Not just women haters.

And if our own government wasnt so into using the unconstitutional Family Court system to take in over 50 billion dollars a year from couples , ie,another type of civil asset forfeiture, and deliberately drag out proceedings and deliberately encourage animosity between spouses, as stated by judges and lawyers that practice in Family Court,

We could have very efficient and straightforward divorce laws that much of europe has where there is no forever alimony, child support actually goes to the childs needs and is not stealth alimony, and the process is quicker and not set up to increase spousal animosity. There divorce occurs in such a way as to let people get on with their lives as opposed to the court making a living off of keeping divorce proceedings going as long as possible to drain money away from the family.


185 posted on 05/20/2016 10:04:40 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Of my friends I am the last man standing.

Even though I am in a reasonably happy marriage (20+ years). I do not recommend it for any man — unless he is able to reverse the leverage (e.g., rich wife).

I never congratulate men (or women for that matter) when they announce intentions to marry. I stay silent.


193 posted on 05/20/2016 10:13:24 AM PDT by 13foxtrot
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Time for a Joke.

A little Boy Toddler and a little Girl Toddler are sitting on the floor playing.

The little Boy pulls open the front of his Diaper, looks down and says, you don’t have one of these.

The little Girl pulls open the front of her Diaper, looks down and says, with one of these I can get 100 of those.


202 posted on 05/20/2016 10:23:36 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary Clinton has killed four more People than Three Mile Island.)
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Women started it. “Work, kids, bring home the bacon, too! You don’t need a man!”


208 posted on 05/20/2016 10:30:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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