How I despise these people.
The Confederate Battle Flag I own was bought at Gettysburg.
Its Gettysburg for crying out loud.
‘These people are nuts.
BTW that is probably the most beautiful area in PA and all around Lancaster county.
We were there for Christmas some time ago and the town looked like a Charles Dickens town in a book
You and me both, RiBP, you and me both. I just read an article purporting to be about the emerging “authoritarian” strain on the right/in the GOPe, but everytime we are minding our own business and celebrating or supporting our own principles/priorities/etc, it’s always the left who just has to try to shut us down. We don’t go try to break up Black Panther or Black Lies Matter rallies, the left’s slut walks and sodomite parades (which they increasingly look for more ways to shove in our faces and the faces of our children), but they just can’t leave us alone, they go so far as to suppress speech from the right, look at the disruptors at Trump rallies, when have we have ever done this kind of thing to their candidates? They are contemptible, tyrannical, and totalitayarian, and we on the right get called “authoritarian”?
It’s a flag, social justice warriors! It can’t hurt you!
We even have some of these leftist nutjobs, and it’s people in positions of authority or at least with a platform and a megaphone supplied by the “normal” left, calling for us to be jailed as “climate change deniers”. But we’re the authoritarians./s
We will be there tomorrow and can’t wait. Have wanted to visit Gettysburg for many years and am finally going to fulfill a long held wish. God bless both sides who fought and sacrificed for their beliefs. Wonder how many today would do the same?
The only proper response to this is "Stuff it, lady."
One guy with a Confederate flag t-shirt kills some people and the whole Civil War heritage gets thrown in the trash but several mussies go out and kill a bunch of folks and the liberals come and defend them. Something is wrong with this picture.
When the war ended the two sides. Came together and honored one another they held many reunions together there was deep respect among the two sides. Even tho the two sides were bitterly at war. Against one another, they still had profound understanding of another at the surrender of Appomattox Grant, was awed struck by Lee. Even tho Grant, was the victor he treated Lee, like a star Col. Chamberlain the hero, of the Round Tops. Who was by then, a Major General ordered the Army, of the Potomac to sluate. There foe so there’s always been profound respect for ours. And, their heritage while we don’t see eye to eye. One another, causes we don’t go after the Symbols. Of our heritage, these soldiers. Union and Confederate should be honored given dignity. Regurdless, of what thinks of what the war, was about. Because after the blood was spilled those four years. They come together as brother’s who shared there stories, and struggles and they shook one another. Hands I am proud of both Union and Confederate soldiers. They are hero’s who all for they’re respective causes.
What it means now is exactly what the point of contention.
It is all in Hansen's eyes ( and leftist mind ), thus demonstrating that racism doesn't exist except in Hansen's macro-aggression mind! opinion !!
We should not forget. Every time we see the confederate flag we remember the split between north and south; who won and who lost. It’s more about remembering, the value of what was lost and the value of what was gained. What was lost was slavery, that is of value, what was lost were too many American lives. What was gained was freedom for those who were enslaved and the union remained intact.
I was going to suggest a blue field bearing a white shield and red Cross of Saint George but didn't want to hurt any muslim feelings.
(Am I bad for including white in both options?)
I wonder if, when all vestiges and memories of the Confederacy are finally extinguished, will slavery also become just a figment of the imagination?
What we are seeing is “ ‘Pavlov’s Dog’ form of simple conditioning” in action.
Students with brains full of mush have been conditioned by their professors to foam at the mouth and fall down in fits when they see the Confederate Battle Flag. I think they get great fun seeing just how far they can “condition” each generation of students.
Notice no one falls down in fits when the British Flag is flown, or the Mexican flag, not even the Japanese flag.
The British, Mexicans, and Japanese committed atrocities far beyond what Slavery did in the South. One could walk around with Fascist flags draped around their necks and most students would not even know what they were.
Both sides were fighting for the same ideals, as best each understood them. Not for more land or for control of government. Which is more than can be said of most civil wars throughout history.
It was a very tragic affair. But it was also probably inevitable. Civil war had threatened to happen as far back as the Andrew Jackson administration. It was only delayed, not defused.
The men and women of both the North and the South were handed circumstances which could not be avoided. Each side did what its people could, as best they could in accordance to their consciences and their beliefs. No more, no less.
There was no "good" or "bad" side in the Civil War. There were only people, with human frailties, admirably kept in check for the most part by the belief that there would be an accounting for their actions. That for whatever reason God had let this conflict happen among themselves and that it was given to them to settle it on their own.
Maybe that's part of the cost of this being a free country. That we take responsibility for our governance, and our mistakes. If so, the American Civil War is as mighty a parable as any in the Good Book.
They weren't North. They weren't South. They weren't "slave state" and "free state". There was no Union or Confederacy.
They were one nation struggling to come to terms with the sovereignty it was granted over itself.
I'd say those men and women came out pretty well, compared to other such wars.
And in the decades to come, those men and women held no rancor against each other. Rather they embraced, in love and admiration, as brothers and sisters.
Only in our time has hatred been injected into these chronicles.
It is a damned atrocity that any of those men and women would have that honor and memory denied them by us.
The letter below is my take on the subject and I actually got it published in Ronald Reagan’s favorite paper, The Washington Times.
Demeaning Our Military Heritage
This country owes as much of its enviable martial heritage to the South as the North. But now to serve popular morality, we must banish from history the Confederate battle flag and those who served under it. Responding to these assertions, I quote Joshua Chamberlain who received the Confederate surrender at Appomattox.
“Before us in proud humiliation stood the embodiment of manhood: men whom neither toils and sufferings, nor the fact of death, nor disaster, nor hopelessness could bend from their resolve; standing before us now, thin, worn, and famished, but erect, and with eyes looking level into ours, waking memories that bound us together as no other bond. Was not such manhood to be welcomed back into a Union so tested and assured?”
Winston Churchill commented concerning American entry into WW II that victory was then assured, because our Civil War demonstrated the tenacity required to defeat the Nazis.
Joshua Chamberlain
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joshua_Chamberlain
Suppose the South had won The Civil War. Would they have freed the slaves? And as far as The Stars And Bars are concerned it is a historic memento the same as the swastika. To deny this would be to say there were no Nazis and no WW2 or an American Civil War and a Confederacy.. But the flag this nation has defended in all it’s wars and the one our men and women serve under is The Stars And Stripes.
The only hate is the Hate for history.