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To: Fantasywriter; newgeezer; Red Steel

Obviously it’s not OK to lie. As I said to the other poster here, I am not going to go on a wild goosechase over each accusation of lying; I’ve wasted too much time even just dealing with this one, and my life requires me to not waste a lot of time right now.

Without having followed closely, the eminent domain ad seems to be half-truth. Donald tried to use eminent domain for his own financial gain but did not succeed. If Cruz presented it as if he had succeeded, that was not correct. It is correct that Trump attempted it. So a half-truth. Not good.

But this thread is not about that. This thread is about Carson saying Cruz apology (for not getting CNN’s report updated quickly) is not good enough. And people here are talking bout Cruz’s sleazy tactics and how this confirms what a liar he is. On this thread and elsewhere I hear that language thrown about but I don’t hear anybody substantiating it regarding the Carson episode.

The closest anybody has come is a Cruz IA speaker who is a freeper and who said he was disappointed that Steve King ran with CNN’s story even though Carson’s campaign manager appears to have corrected the story in a tweet one minute after the initial CNN tweet. Did the Cruz people see that tweet in the thick of caucus preparations? Who knows. This guy’s disappointment seemed to be that this was another SNAFU that hurts the Cruz campaign.

If the tweet that Red Steel brought up is genuine, the Cruz camp may have gotten confirmation from Carson’s people (maybe those who had just quit the NH Carson campaign to join Cruz’s) that he was going to quit - which could be the source for their comment that Carson was going to have a big announcement next week. If so, that would explain why they told newgeezer that there was more to the story than was being said and it would explain why they wouldn’t answer what the big announcement was that their email had alluded to - since Carson should be able to make his announcement on his own terms.

It would also explain why that tweet was deleted, if Carson was now rescinding what his people had told the Cruz campaign.


135 posted on 02/03/2016 4:55:32 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
the eminent domain ad seems to be half-truth.

That ad is a bald face lie. The entire premise of the ad is that Trump used eminent domain to get rich, That is a LIE LIE LIE.

140 posted on 02/03/2016 5:01:36 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: butterdezillion

‘Donald tried to use eminent domain for his own financial gain but did not succeed.’

You didn’t even read my post. You’re just giving Cruz talking points.

Repeat: individuals CANNOT use eminent domain. Only the state can.

The biggest lie was claiming Trump GOT RICH using eminent domain, WHILE the ad shows a big scary bulldozer trashing the old widow’s house. The widow didn’t lose her house. She kept it and lived in it.

Butter, there is no half truth in this ad. It is sleazy, scummy, fundamentally dishonest, and shameless. I have not seen a more trashy, nasty ad by ANY candidate.

How could a Christian justify this level of deceit? Just answer me that one question? How can a person drape their campaign in the Name of Jesus and lie to this degree about a fellow human being?


153 posted on 02/03/2016 5:30:22 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: butterdezillion

Forgot to reiterate that far from getting rich off eminent domain, Trump has never made one red cent off it. Not one penny.


155 posted on 02/03/2016 5:36:24 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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