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1 posted on 01/17/2016 11:50:22 AM PST by springwater13
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Hmm, whatever happened to Santorum?


46 posted on 01/17/2016 1:37:00 PM PST by Crucial (At the heart all leftists s the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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Was Trump talking about conservatives as, “them” or “us”...do you see the difference? I’d like to know the context, because if he meant “them”, well, then he is yet to get it.

I’ll still vote for him in the general, don’t get me wrong...however, still I’m a Cruz guy.


52 posted on 01/17/2016 2:03:56 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Freedom is costly; but Marxism takes all.)
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It’s hard not to like a guy who keeps saying exactly what so many people are already thinking!


53 posted on 01/17/2016 2:26:12 PM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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Noting that I will gladly vote for Trump if nominated, please consider the following.

I regard Trump as a constitutionally low-information candidate who is clueless about 10th Amendment-protected state powers (corrections welcome). And while I agree with Trump that Obamacare has to go, regarding his disdain for Justice Roberts on passing Obamacare, I wonder on what basis Trump thinks that Roberts, and other state sovereignty-ignoring justices, wrongly decided that Obamacare is constitutional.

If elected, note that Trump needs to successfully lead Congress to propose a healthcare amendment to the Constitution to the states before buiding another healhcare program from scratch which he has said he will do. After all, maybe the states think that they can do a better job with their own healthcare programs and reject a national healthcare program.

As mentioned in related threads, below is laundry list of excerpts from Supreme Court case opinions, wrongly ignored by the Roberts Court imo, that reasonably show that previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specfic power to regulate, tax, spend and insure for INTRAstate healthcare purposes.


54 posted on 01/17/2016 2:26:50 PM PST by Amendment10
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Another non-issue and more


June 30, 2015 - Ted Cruz on John Roberts: 'He violated his oath,' 'he changed the law'
56 posted on 01/17/2016 2:44:08 PM PST by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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Sadly many of us have had the wool pulled over our eyes by duplicitous, conniving liars.

Many thought Roberts was a strong Conservative.

58 posted on 01/17/2016 3:53:19 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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well. he’s dead right about the traitor roberts.

unquestionably, roberts (bush appointee) is the man who destroyed the last vestige of SC constitutional relevancy with one horrific, freakshow vote. for me, it’s now a question of what they had on him, what he was paid, or how a pure leftist got appointed by a supposedly conservative bush. and i can still hear pelosi saying he was their guy; that he was going to surprise everyone.

what a disaster he’s been.


59 posted on 01/17/2016 3:57:12 PM PST by dadfly
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Roberts has certainly been unreliable.


65 posted on 01/17/2016 4:23:29 PM PST by Ted Grant
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He might have a bit more credibility on this subject if he didn’t recently join leftists in ripping Antonin Scalia and suggest his lunatic leftist sister would be a great supreme court judge.

Hank


78 posted on 01/17/2016 5:04:27 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Trust Fund Donnie Trump thinks "Nuclear Triad" is a death metal trio.)
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94 posted on 01/17/2016 6:10:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Every home needs a crewznadian that has been domestically trained.)
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Kelo v. New London CT was also a disaster but Trump whole heartedly supported that decision and still does, and apparently wouldn’t mind appointing judges who would make similar decisions.

Is Trump saying he could have foreseen how Roberts would have turned out on Obamacare in a way Cruz did not? Did Trump speak out at the time against Roberts arguing he’d make some bad decisions with the liberal block on the court?


125 posted on 01/17/2016 7:59:14 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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The only plausible rumor I’ve read about Roberts strange behavior is that he has been allegedly blackmailed over the allegedly illegal adoption of his children. If so, he couldn’t have made things better by resigning with Obama appointing his successor.


175 posted on 01/18/2016 11:00:52 AM PST by doug6352
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It’s a good sign Trump can see the mess it’s put us in... means he’s much LESS likely to make a bad pick.


181 posted on 01/18/2016 12:48:40 PM PST by GOPJ (Dem debate hosted by Google, NBC & non-convicted members of Congressional Black Caucus-Greenfield)
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