[philman_36]

YOU have already made it clear that this is an issue you brought up and which I have not delved into.

You brought this about with your original misrepresentation!
I'm challenging your assertion. It is now incumbent upon you to prove your assertion and disprove mine.

Your assertion is that the right to keep and bear arms is a civil right. My contention is that you're ignorant (uninformed) about the issue, that the right to keep and bear arms is a natural right and you have misrepresented the issue.

Can you grasp that?

[Torcert]

Thank You very much - you're making my argument for me:

You brought this about with your original misrepresentation!

Can you grasp that?

Perhaps you can argue with yourself and leave me out of it.