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1 posted on 08/24/2015 4:18:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“The American project is so strong, our culture is so strong, our values are so strong, that any baby born on our soil...”

It is hard to conceive of anyone being that stupid, with France and the rest of Europe being disassembled by immigrants. A nation can take in only so many immigrants and still retain its identity. The goal of the immigration policy promoted by Republicans and democrats is to destroy our identity and culture. Most Americans disagree mightily with that, which explains Trump.


29 posted on 08/24/2015 4:45:06 PM PDT by odawg
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Birthright Citizenship is the new cool cliche for Anchor Babies. We are about to see the Marxist Media go both barrels on this term.

Pray America is waking


30 posted on 08/24/2015 4:46:50 PM PDT by bray (Trump and Cruz to the White House)
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Canada got rid of their birthright citizenship, making the US the ONLY developed nation to have it.

Mexico’s immigration laws are stricter than the harshest Republican plan, from citizen’s arrest of suspected illegals to visitors getting deported for participating in political rallies to inability of foreigners to own land near the coasts to requiring proof you can support yourself AND you can’t get hired unless they can’t find a Mexican to do it.


31 posted on 08/24/2015 4:52:11 PM PDT by tbw2
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Birthright citizenship says, quite explicitly, "The American project is so strong, our culture is so strong, our values are so strong, that any baby born on our soil, no matter where his parents come from, will ultimately grow up to be a well-adjusted American, so that we don't need to wait for him to prove himself to extend citizenship."

Birthright citizenship for illegals may or may not be mandated by the 14th amendment, but it "says" nothing, explicitly or even implicitly.

32 posted on 08/24/2015 4:52:22 PM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt)
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I might be for jus-soli birthright citizenship for illegals, if there was no public welfare of any kind. Point made by Milton Friedman I believe.

With emphasis on might.

33 posted on 08/24/2015 4:54:44 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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“The U.S. enacted birthright citizenship for different reasons, to ensure the citizenship of freed slaves after the Civil War. But... (the rest is needless argument and invalid because of the statement above)


34 posted on 08/24/2015 4:55:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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“Birthright citizenship says, quite explicitly, “The American project is so strong, our culture is so strong, our values are so strong, that any baby born on our soil, no matter where his parents come from, will ultimately grow up to be a well-adjusted American, so that we don’t need to wait for him to prove himself to extend citizenship.”

Maybe the kid WILL grow up with some “American” values, although the Democrats and liberals will do their best to prevent it. But then, a kid ought to grow up with his parents, and I see no reason to give resident status to someone - and a life of welfare benefits - to someone for having a kid in the USA!

But assuming you ship the parents out, and let them keep their kid - how will he learn “American values” while growing up with his parents in Mexico? Hmmm?


35 posted on 08/24/2015 5:02:07 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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Invasion by pregnancy is still an invasion!


36 posted on 08/24/2015 5:03:34 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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Birthright citizenship says, quite explicitly, "The American project is so strong, our culture is so strong, our values are so strong, that any baby born on our soil, no matter where his parents come from, will ultimately grow up to be a well-adjusted American, so that we don't need to wait for him to prove himself to extend citizenship."

At one time this was true for most immigrants. It is no longer true today. Immigrants are not assimilating as they have in the past.

38 posted on 08/24/2015 5:03:48 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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Sacre merde.


39 posted on 08/24/2015 5:04:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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“anchor babies” is a myth.

I’d like to know what “research” was done. I’ve known thousands of illegals (mostly Mexican). I’ve known hundreds of children of illegals born in the USA. I’ve registered to vote about 150 naturalized citizens. Anchor babies and anchor wives are real. I know school districts where anchor baby shifted from 5% to 60% across dozens of kindergarten classes.

Two of my 3 daughters are anchor babies in that they were born while my wife was an illegal. If we had divorced she would not have needed me as the anchor spouse.

BTW why are people so concerned about the anchor baby and not the anchor spouse? I feel slighted. Am I not important also? :)

But as far as the article is concerned, I’d like to know the “research”.


40 posted on 08/24/2015 5:04:11 PM PDT by spintreebob
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I’m not crazy about France or ‘Frenchmen’, but it’s a pretty safe bet that several million of them would not chance American culture too much (other than complaining about everything and having to explain to their babes that some beaches still require tops).

But that is NOT the issue here. The people taking advantage of our Open Borders polices consist of two types: Those from south of the border, and those that approve of 9/11.


42 posted on 08/24/2015 5:07:14 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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Because we don’t already have enough foreigners scamming us for free stuff.

/s


45 posted on 08/24/2015 5:13:56 PM PDT by Iron Munro (We may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they aren't really after us)
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Sorry, Donald Trump: America needs birthright citizenship

No, we don't, Grubby.

Find out what birthright citizenship is, before engaging mouth.

Birthright citizenship should be both transparent and totally uncontroversial.

Your understanding of it is ignorant... as in not totally informed about the process and the history of the term.

50 posted on 08/24/2015 5:56:43 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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Another clueless Frenchman. He ought to look at the myriad of French problems and try to solve them rather than opining on U.S. issues.


51 posted on 08/24/2015 5:57:50 PM PDT by falcon99
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Karl Marx was the original conservative:

The Communists are further reproached with desiring to abolish countries and nationality.

The working men have no country. We cannot take from them what they have not got. Since the proletariat must first of all acquire political supremacy, must rise to be the leading class of the nation, must constitute itself the nation, it is so far, itself national, though not in the bourgeois sense of the word.

National differences and antagonism between peoples are daily more and more vanishing, owing to the development of the bourgeoisie, to freedom of commerce, to the world market, to uniformity in the mode of production and in the conditions of life corresponding thereto.


52 posted on 08/24/2015 5:58:54 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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I like how when I’m dragged to court, I’m told that #1) I’m responsible for knowing the law and #2) I’m responsible for understanding that law.

And when politicians and talking heads don’t know the law, well it’s all interpretive. :)


53 posted on 08/24/2015 6:00:02 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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It’s worse than anchor babies. Here in Oklahoma, pregnant illegals get prenatal care since the baby is going to be a citizen once it’s born.


54 posted on 08/24/2015 6:01:46 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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57 posted on 08/24/2015 6:10:31 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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Nonsense. We absolutely do not need birthright citizenship. I was told (I did not see it myself) that today Bill O’Reilly raved for the need for birthright citizenship and that the far left and Conservatives all agree on this. I wish he would have M. Levin on his show to tell him how wrong he is.


59 posted on 08/24/2015 6:37:04 PM PDT by apocalypto
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