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To: Arthur McGowan

OK, here’s what you have to believe in:

A pregnant teenage girl in the early 1960s who wants to fly to a foreign country(maybe not third world, but not exactly first world either)to have her first baby, away from her own mother and with strangers in a different culture.

The Honolulu Star Bulletin has a crystal ball and knows that this is one birth announcement that needs to be falsified.

In addition, the certificate of live birth which people were saying was not a legal document, just a souvenir, actually is a legal document. Mine is from Montana in 1956, but its probably similar. The thing with the footprints is actually a souvenir.

When I hear hoofbeats, I tend to think horses, not zebras, yes even in Kenya. This is my standard answer to all birthers, and all I will say on the subject.


218 posted on 06/21/2015 2:16:09 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: crazycatlady
Yes, it is completely believable that a 17 year old of the early 1960s, pregnant out of wedlock, would fly with her husband to another country.

Proud grandparents post birth announcements in our town paper all the time. Sometimes the parents of the baby live out of the country. The Dunhams had especially good reason to do so since it is possible that Obama was born out of the country and therefore not a citizen.

There is **PLENTY** of evidence that the birth documents posted on the Internet ARE flat-out clumsy forgeries.

Finally...Obama spent millions ( government and private ) to prevent the release of court admissible birth documents. The ducks I see quacking and waddling around like ducks are that Obama went to great lengths to hide documents ( birth certificate, school records, and passports) that any natural born citizen would have immediately released. All it would have taken would have been a nod of his head to his secretary and a mere $20 or $30.

Yes....I am STILL totally pissed at Rush Limbaugh for ignoring Obama’s eligibility, his expensive and extensive efforts to hid his past, and the FORGERIES.

Rush Limbaugh is completely UNTRUSTWORTHY and a COWARD. He is a PHONY for ignoring Obama’s eligibility.. I will never forget it and will take every opportunity I can find to remind conservatives of Limbaugh's cowardice.

221 posted on 06/21/2015 5:54:14 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: crazycatlady

Have you looked into HOW those announcements got into the paper?

BTW: Holding that the crude forgery is a crude forgery DOES NOT commit one to the claim that “Obama” was not born in Hawaii. All it commits one to is the proposition that the files of the State of Hawaii do not contain a piece of paper dating from 1961, of which the pdf is an accurate image.

There is no evidence that the Kenyan Obama is the biological father of “Obama Junior.”


222 posted on 06/21/2015 8:20:30 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: crazycatlady
Actually, no, you don't have to believe any of that. The fact is the birth certificate is a forgery. A poorly done forgery, at that.

Now getting into the WHY he presented a forgery is when people fly off the rails. And personally, I don't even care why. I don't care where, when, why, or how he was born or hatched or whatever. The fact is he presented fraudulent documentation.

There is no question it is a forgery. And that alone is a crime of major proportions for which any other American would have been imprisoned.

230 posted on 06/22/2015 8:09:40 AM PDT by ponygirl (Put. A. Bird. On. It.)
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To: crazycatlady
One more thing:

Obama is using a dead man's social security number. That is well documented. Yet.....Nothing is done. No one is curious.

231 posted on 06/22/2015 5:59:13 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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