[SpeakerToAnimals]

How many of our troops were blown up by German IEDs? You compare apples to rocks.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"How many of our troops were blown up by German IEDs? You compare apples to rocks."

No, what I believe he was comparing was Germany at the end of WWII and Iraq at the end of 2011, not 2005 or 2006. At the end of 2011 there would have been almost zero casualties as there were pretty much after 2010.

[odawg]

There were some killed by German snipers. They killed the snipers. Your point was that if Iraq still needed American troops, then we didn’t win. We won as long as we were there. There would be no Isis in Iraq if American troops had remained, as they remain in Germany even today. Now, I agree with you, it was useless, and laughable, to try to build a Western democracy in Iraq, which has no tradition of democracy, and a dislike of Western ideas. The best hope was to install a somewhat benevolent military government.