Posted on 02/17/2015 4:18:33 PM PST by SJackson
Well, I’m glad he’s saying it, but I wonder, how long until someone takes a shot at him?
It does get complicated.-Tom
Robin Wright-
A common denominator among disparate Salafi groups is inspiration and support from Wahhabis, a puritanical strain of Sunni Islam from Saudi Arabia.
Not all Saudis are Wahhabis.
Not all Salafis are Wahhabis, either.
But Wahhabis are basically all Salafis.
And many Arabs, particularly outside the sparsely populated Gulf, suspect that Wahhabis are trying to seize the future by aiding and abetting the region’s newly politicized Salafis — as they did 30 years ago by funding the South Asian madrassas that produced Afghanistan’s Taliban.
Yes, but Salafis are very close to Wahhabis, ideologically. In a way Salafis, though they hold Wahhabism in disrepute, are just “super-Wahhabis” who spring from the same source but apply their principals even more strictly. If the doctrines that support Wahhabism were renounced, then that would undermine Salafism as well, just as if you denounce the doctrines that led to Protestantism, you necessarily also denounce the Reformers.
What about the teachings of Imam Hussein?
1,400 year same ole same ole.
Islam is the fruit of rage and hatred.
Muslims need to pile all korans onto a fire and bid for farewell to Muhammad’s curse on humanity.
I thought the main difference was that Wahhabism refers only to the teachings of Mohammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, it's founder (a Saudi Arabian), hence named after him. Whereas Salafism refers to "the pious predecessors" (the first 3 generations of Islam or Islamic rulers). Although I see your points and the connection between the 2. Apparently, Salafism is more the 'methodology' of following "the pious predecessors".
I believe you are right in that.
Salafists in our Country, and other Salafists outside that area in which ISIS is trying to establish a Caliphate are sitting on the fence.
If ISIS is more successful, these Salafist fence sitters might join the fight to our detriment. -Tom
Bookmkrk
I must sound naive, but it's just stupid for these "Leaders " (especially Western ones) to keep saying "ISIS has nothing to do with Islam or is un-Islamic". It'd be far more sensible to actually explain Salafism/Wahhabism (ISIS) as a matter of fact, call a spade a spade, say "Houston we've got a problem", and work out a viable solution.
The Western leaders have a problem in pinning the blame directly on Islam because Saudi Arabia has poured so much money into these countries, and has such great influence, in them, that the Saudis would be fingered as spreading the Wahhabi doctrine of Jihad around the world.
So the leaders obfuscate the Islam problem with words like - extremists - hi jackers - radicals - barbarians - etc. -Tom
My first thought as well. He’s brave to put it in writing.
Well, Saudis aren't the only ones, but rich enough, have the means to spread the ideology and are one of the main culprits.
It's also obvious the Western Leaders' narrative about ISIS is primarily targeted at Western audiences, who are currently & overall assumed to be sufficiently uninformed to be easily confused. But people, even seemingly confused ones, in the age of the internet, learn & judge more by seeing/watching what's enacted, not words.
that the Saudis would be fingered as spreading the Wahhabi doctrine of Jihad around the world.
In my view, it is not necessary to publicly mention a specific country such as Saudi Arabia. It's the ideology & methodology that are in question.
Hey, when your prophet is a murdering rapist, you strive to become a murdering rapist and kill your enemies. Jesus taught about eternal life. Muhammed teaches death.
ISIS is that old time religion.
And I salute him for saying what he did.
The safest way for Muslims to reform would be to ditch Muhammad as their prophet and come up with a better man. One who was who not a mass murderer and pedophile
Burn the Koran, denounce Mad Mo. Embrace Festivus, Scientology, Fulan Gong, whatever you want, so long as it doesn’t call for mass murder, as the Koran and Mad Mo do.
The so-called Infidel Leaders wouldn't go down that path because ordinary interested people and the right wing outlets would delve into it and find out Saudi Arabia is behind the spreading of Wahhabism around the world by funding Mosques and schools in many countries including ours.-Tom
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