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To: kidd

Still waiting for something — anything — about the laity being called to do liturgical stuff.


118 posted on 01/28/2015 6:30:56 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus

You’ll have to tell me where I specified that I claimed Vatican II said anything “about the laity being called to do liturgical stuff”

Let me help you with that scarecrow:
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Post 67: “Most practicing American Catholics see altar serving as a way for children and young adults to serve the Church. Involvement. Responsibility.”

No mention of the laity being called by Vatican II to do liturgical stuff (you agreed with the observation, by the way)
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Post 67: “Prior to Vatican II, there WAS a viewpoint that altar serving was preparation for the priesthood. After Vatican II, but BEFORE female altar servers, that viewpoint changed from priesthood preparation to layperson involvement in the Mass.”

What I thought was the opinion of most Catholics at the time, yes. Vatican II calling for laity to do liturgical “stuff”, no.
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Post 81: “I was explaining the attitude shift that came with Vatican II, which DID call for greater involvement by lay persons”

No mention of the laity being called by Vatican II to do liturgical stuff. Greater involvement, yes. Liturgical “stuff”, no.
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Post 100: “These documents note that lay people are called to be saints AND lay people are called by Christ to take part in the mission of the Church”

No mention of the laity being called to do liturgical stuff. Greater involvement, yes. Liturgical “stuff”, no.
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Post 107: “The laity should accustom themselves to working in the parish in union with their priests”

No mention of the laity being called to do liturgical stuff. Greater involvement, yes. Liturgical “stuff”, no.
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Post 112: “It is especially on this level that the apostolate of the laity and the pastoral ministry are mutually complementary”

No mention of the laity being called to do liturgical stuff. Greater involvement, yes. Liturgical “stuff”, no.
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Post 113: “The laity carry out their manifold apostolate BOTH in the Church and in the world. In both areas there are various opportunities for apostolic activity”

No mention of the laity being called to do liturgical stuff. This directly counters your ignorant position that Vatican II limits lay person apostolate to the world only.
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You can wait all day in self-aggrandizement, but I never claimed that Vatican II made calls for the laity to perform liturgical “stuff”.


120 posted on 01/28/2015 7:36:50 PM PST by kidd
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