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Will interstellar space travel save humanity?....
Daily Mail ^ | 12:44 EST, 26 January 2015 | Professor Fredrick Jenet and Professor Teviet Creighton For The Conversation

Posted on 01/27/2015 5:22:03 AM PST by WhiskeyX

Will interstellar space travel save humanity? Scientists predict artificial ‘homes’ in space will have to a become a reality - and say ‘warp drives’ could be the answer The vast distances between solar systems combined with the speed-of-light limit puts severe constraints on the realities of space travel This could be overcome using some form of worm hole or warp drive Another world would likely have an environment that is unbreathable Terraforming is an option, but this would be challenging and expensive Interstellar-style spinning habitats would be a more sensible option

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: habitats; spacetravel; terraforming
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To: Charles Martel

“We can’t do that, Dave”


41 posted on 01/27/2015 6:15:22 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Sirius Lee
Good point about the microbial problem. NASA developed an elaborate protocol to deal with just that when the first lunar explorers returned (isolation garments, the LRL at JSC, etc.). The lunar environment turned out to be a self-sterilizer, but any kind of life-supporting world we discover will have its own alien (to us, when in fact we'll be the aliens) bacteria, viruses, and microbes that our systems have never had to defend against. No doubt they will, to some extent, but will it be enough? Remember what happened to the Martians in War of the Worlds. It could very well happen to us if we go somewhere that has germs and viruses we can't cope with.
42 posted on 01/27/2015 6:18:39 AM PST by chimera
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To: WhiskeyX

Sounds good to me, what is the hold-up?


43 posted on 01/27/2015 6:19:51 AM PST by GeronL
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To: WhiskeyX

Okay, let us launch a ragtag fleet of ships to other star systems!


44 posted on 01/27/2015 6:22:52 AM PST by GeronL
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To: WhiskeyX

If the “threat” we are talking about is Global Warming then yes, space travel will solve it.


45 posted on 01/27/2015 6:23:14 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: WhiskeyX

Only if there is not God and He does not love humanity would we have to attempt to look elsewhere to ensure the human race does not die out. But so many people who advance space travel for this very existential reason think that in doing so humanity can somehow escape the inherent failures of humanity.

If we could travel to other habitable planets, those new societies would soon be beset by the very problems humans have on this one.

Happily, there is a Creator God and He has a plan for humans to transcend their failures. However, the step that is in the immediate future is not so pleasant. It involves allowing humanity to fully experience the fruits of following the god of this world. See Revelation 12:12.


46 posted on 01/27/2015 6:27:45 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: WhiskeyX; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
RE :”Human colonization of space habitats is very feasible. We only lack the will to do it and do it now.”

Right, just as soon as captain Spock goes back in time thru a black hole and gives the young Scotty his future formula for a inter-planetary transporter. Then we wont need rocket engines or fuel anymore. We can just travel there in seconds.

We only lack the will to do it...
AHHH, the collectivize ‘we’, we selfish taxpayers.

47 posted on 01/27/2015 6:28:16 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Charles Martel

“We might just as easily find a way to escape into the past, rather than deep space.”

Interplanetary space in our own Solar System is deep space, and we are already using many unmanned spacecraft to explore deep space. The establishment of a manned station on an asteroid is not much more difficult than sending humans to the International Space Station (ISS). Over time humans would begin to make permanent habitats in the asteroids, and some of those asteroids were serve as routine transports to the outer Solar System along eccentric Solar orbits. As more and more human habitats become established among the asteroids, industries and economies would come into existence that drastically reduce the economic costs of production and transportation of goods and service required by those communities.


48 posted on 01/27/2015 6:32:32 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: sickoflibs

http://phys.org/news/2015-01-gigantic-j1407b-larger-heavier-saturn.html

A ring system 200 times bigger than Saturns??

Who wouldn’t buy a ticket to see that??


49 posted on 01/27/2015 6:34:48 AM PST by GeronL
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To: GeronL
RE :”A ring system 200 times bigger than Saturns??
Who wouldn’t buy a ticket to see that??”

You mean in a movie? A movie ticket?

50 posted on 01/27/2015 6:38:33 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: GeronL

But that was a lot of what was available then. I’m with you on that, some of them were just terrible.


51 posted on 01/27/2015 6:42:09 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: WhiskeyX

does humanity need saving? no......


52 posted on 01/27/2015 6:42:09 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: WhiskeyX

“Will interstellar space travel save humanity?”

Sure. Why not.


53 posted on 01/27/2015 6:42:14 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: sickoflibs

A ticket for the cruise ship to that solar system. lol


54 posted on 01/27/2015 6:42:41 AM PST by GeronL
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To: WhiskeyX

I read a very good non-fiction book on this topic that I cannot remember the name of and would love to read again. Within the last 15 years or so. Any help would be appreciated.


55 posted on 01/27/2015 6:46:04 AM PST by John W (1/20/2017 Liberation Day)
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To: sickoflibs; All

It wasn’t all that long ago on this forum that a number of people were screaming for the de-funding of NASA and saying that nothing good ever came from it. I am not a big fan of NASA and frankly think it should have never been created but that is history. We should have continued with exploration and built a colony or base on the moon... but short sighted government and the whinging few stopped that. Now we have lost the ability to build the rocket motors that powered the Saturn 5 rockets to the moon and back and that is the real sad part.... had we, the United States, continued to lead the way into space we might have already settled colonies on the moon and have stations out in space.


56 posted on 01/27/2015 6:50:50 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: WhiskeyX

But what will we EVER do without our telephone sanitizers?


57 posted on 01/27/2015 6:52:27 AM PST by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: WhiskeyX; 9thLife
Will interstellar space travel save humanity? Scientists predict artificial ‘homes’ in space will have to a become a reality - and say ‘warp drives’ could be the answer The vast distances between solar systems combined with the speed-of-light limit puts severe constraints on the realities of space travel This could be overcome using some form of worm hole or warp drive Another world would likely have an environment that is unbreathable Terraforming is an option, but this would be challenging and expensive Interstellar-style spinning habitats would be a more sensible option

Will leprechauns and unicorns save humanity? Scientists predict mystical ‘creatures’ in middle Earth will have to a become a reality - and say ‘pixie dust and magic’ could be the answer. The vast distances between enchanted forests combined with the Giant and Orc limit puts severe constraints on the realities of flying wizards. This could be overcome using some form of Magick or Seeing Crystals. Another world would likely have an enchantment that is unbreakable. Building vast castles is an option, but this would be challenging and expensive. Sword-wielding elven armies would be a more sensible option.

Shoot, might as well have written it my way.

58 posted on 01/27/2015 6:56:26 AM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: WhiskeyX

Save us from what, exactly?

We’ve already been saved, we’re just waiting for the max number of people to accept the invitation.


59 posted on 01/27/2015 6:57:21 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Um, not likely. The zero point field is everywhere, and it is energy dense. Tapping into the field is the unlimited energy supply for interstellar travel. BTW, Physicists are already working on isolating a craft and contents from the source of inertia and thus gravity. See Haisch and Rueda, et al


60 posted on 01/27/2015 7:01:24 AM PST by MHGinTN
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