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To: Diogenesis

Utter nonsense? I’ve been reading your posts for years, and your behavior on this baffles me because it seems out of character.

I don’t think you are stupid, but if you discount what I wrote as “utter nonsense”, I am willing to hear you explain why. I am really interested in hearing why you would categorize the measured, factual response of a fellow Freeper (who has never had a disrespectful communication with you up until now, to my knowledge) with such disrespect. Can you please explain why?

I work in medicine, have had scientific training and clinical work with people infected with highly contagious conditions requiring a high level of protection, though not respirators or hazmat suits. I have been required to understand the various levels of precautions, and the underlying biological reasons for observing those precautions. I think I understand those pretty well, or at least as well as any non-physician or biologist can or needs to.

I don’t really understand why you think this is “utter nonsense”. What I said is fact, and it is indisputable in the context in which I presented it: This model is a way of categorizing how contagious a disease is.

That’s it.

You may disagree with the R0 value of 1-2 for Ebola, and I cannot dispute it because I did not do the research into it.

But, unless I am mistaken, neither did you.

And based on your initial response saying I was mistaken, I suspected you misunderstood the concept because I may not have explained it well.

I stand by my explanation, and the presentation of the disease in this era with people flying on planes and in contact with other people resulting in so few resulting infections (so far) and the experience of people actually treating it, it is indisputable that is far, FAR less contagious than diseases like the flu, diphtheria, and the measles.

So, if you would please do me the courtesy of explaining to me why you would categorize my post (which was my attempt to help other Freepers who may not have had professional exposure to these concepts as I have) understand what we are facing with a dismissive and disrespectful categorization as “utter nonsense”, I would appreciate it if you could do so.


52 posted on 10/29/2014 7:50:48 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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To: rlmorel

Look FRiend, my apology.

It is the model that is utter nonsense.

And it is.
I gave some examples (eg. an Ebola patient with
opportunistic influenza -or visa versa) where Ro
is much larger.

Also, the additional reservoirs, the additional sexual
transmission after “cure” for months, the fact that
some variants (e.g. Reston) are airborne, and the
fact that there have been only 14,000 cases (and 1/2
in the last month), the fact that individuals are already
violating quarantine, the fact that there is no evidence
that ONLY 21 days is requisite, etc .
makes obvious that the simple model
is not, and could not, be appropriate.


53 posted on 10/29/2014 8:19:45 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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