Skip to comments.To my Facebook friends, I apologize
Posted on 09/08/2014 5:28:50 PM PDT by celmak
Ah, the self-hating Jew. No, no, not me. Dont worry, I havent gone over to the dark side. But so many of us have, and it always becomes more evident when Israel is in the midst of a crisis. Yes, the self-hating Jews, those pathetic fringe elements of our faith who never admit to what they really are; in fact, they insist they are the right Jews, the better Jews, the more honest Jews, and they clamor to be representative of our ancient heritage. Rarely missing an opportunity to condemn and criticize Israel and its supporters, they slink into conversations without invitation, until they are exposed by the light of truth. Then they scamper hurriedly away like the cowards they are, seeking out and creepily weaving into the next thread when the darkness upon which they thrive envelops their senses. I just wish they would at least be honest. I might then have some respect for them. (Well, not really.)
After the blog I penned last week, I attracted a number of people, claiming to be Jewish, who took blunt exception to my words. One hater called me a lazy and violent American Zionist. My mother used to call me a lazy bum; hey, I didnt become a doctor. But violent? Me? Geez, when I find crickets in the house I catch them and take them outside. (OK, so spiders I dispatch without compassion.) As for American Zionist, I accept that label with pride. Anyway, I took a look at the Facebook pages of those and other Jewish anti-Israel rageaholics, and saw post after post excoriating Israel and those who defend it. It seems the main, if not only, reason for so many of them to Facebook-live is to spread their self-hating lies and tirades to anyone stupid enough to listen. I was fascinated, saddened and repulsed all at once.
I will not notate any of the repugnant, horrific writings, but I did notice that while some posts were formed by haters who could put words together in a halfway decent manner, it seemed so many more expressions appeared to be written by folks who must have majored in Gibberish in college. It went beyond nonsensical. I mean, yikes, I didnt know whether to be more outraged by the nasty and ridiculous rants, or by the inability of someone Jewish to write a sentence in a coherent and proper fashion. And as if it is proves anything at all, many Jewish self-haters post and share pictures of Neturei Karta Chasidim at anti-Israel rallies. For those of you who dont know, this radical Chasidic sect, is vehemently anti-Zionist and so, anti the State of Israel. A good number of them actually live in Israel, and sponge off the government as they travel the world to lambaste the country that is too democratic to just kick them the hell out. Hey look! Here are some Jews, even Rabbis, who hate Israel!
In any event, I pondered two questions. First, why cant these bottom-dwellers be honest even for a moment and just admit what they really are? Just stop with the mishigas and admit it. Say it loud and clear, I am a self-hating Jew. They would still spread their venom of course, but at least those of us who havent lost our minds completely could tell the confused Who are the right Jews? masses that these vitriolic vermin admittedly remove themselves from the rest of us. What is it that is written in the Passover Haggadah? The wicked son, what does he say? What is this service to you? He says to you and not to himself. Therefore, because he has excluded himself from the community, he has denied the foundation of our faith. So why wont the self-haters simply exclude themselves? The answer is this. They know what they are, but they are so evil they want to embarrass and hurt the Jewish people in any way they can, so they masquerade as the real deal. If they said they were Jews only by birth, or even better, did not mention their religion at all, they would not gain the attention of the naive and gullible. Even the wicked son is more palatable than the self-hating Jew; at least the son admits it.
My second question is, what the heck happened to someone that he hates Israel so much? It is so unfortunate. Were one or both parents self-hating? Or too far to the left? Too far to the right? Was he suckered in by the media? How does one go from Hebrew School to Hebrew hater? Was it the Hebrew School? Did he get beaten up? Perhaps a bad influence? A bad cholent? I have noticed that some of the people who spend an inordinate amount of time lashing out at Israel are simply anarchists, and they say so. But when a Jewish persons anarchic bitterness is directed toward only one place, Israel, and not toward the many much more influential governments and institutions all over the world, something else must be going on.
To find out more and not just speculate, I spoke with Dr. Mark Lovinger, Director of the Advanced Therapy Center at the Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine in Cleveland, Ohio. He is an expert in child and adult development and behavior, is periodically interviewed on local and national television and has nearly 30 years experience as a psychologist. The best way for the good doctor to determine what issue(s) someone may or may not have, of course, is by his speaking directly with that individual. But I thought it would be counterproductive to contact and try to arrange a dialogue with anyone suffering from IDS, Israel Derangement Syndrome. (Um, hi there. Im writing a column about troublemaking, worthless, scumbag, self-hating Jews, and I thought you would be perfect for the piece. Soooo, how is your day going?) For those Jews who make outrageous anti-Israel statements, in the absence of serious psychiatric issues like a thought disorder or psychosis (in which case we should pity those who suffer, and to whom I am not referring), Dr. Lovinger had a number of theories, part or all that might be acting in concert. It was possible something may have happened in the self-haters past, that someone very close might have hurt him very badly. Or the person could have been bullied, victimized or emotionally wounded, giving a feeling of isolation and defiance, and causing long-lasting damage, where he will wish to do to others what was done to him. Dr. Lovinger explained that a past trauma could have caused his Jewish identity to become ego-dystonic meaning being uncomfortable and feeling guilty about ones own identity. (What? A Jew feeling guilty? No way!) He hates his Jewish identity so much that he hates what other Jews are doing, and refusing to appreciate and/or understand the conflict, he focuses myopically on Israels actions.
It is also possible the hater, could just want to be provocative, to inflame, to get a reaction, that the person doesnt have much to do except get people mad. By attacking supporters of Israel, and making it clear at the same time he is Jewish, the self-hater has fulfilled his goal. More likely than not, the doctor added, for many, it wasnt just that the Jewish self-hater was traumatized as a person, he was traumatized because of being Jewish. The doctor concluded that unless he wants to, the typical self-hating Jew cannot be saved because he doesnt think there is anything wrong with him, and he feels he is right.
So there you have it. It is hard enough, without having to battle our own. So we must be vigilant. We need not confront nor engage the self-hating Jew, but in a more global sense, we must not be silent.
(BTW - see my profile page)
I’m Catholic, I get it!
Where is it posted elsewhere?
What about you profile page? What does it have to do with the article?
To my minimal knowledge on the topic, this comment misrepresents the Chasidic objection to the secular Israel (as legally constituted) for its lack of compliance to Torah. Some may in fact hate non compliant Jews but I don't know that and suspect that sentiments vary considerably. I'm pretty sure they detest the Marxists in their midst.
Rinse and repeat 9/8/2014, 5:29:08 PM · by celmak · 1 replies The Times Of Israel ^
| 08/30/2014 | Shia Altman To my Facebook friends, I apologize
9/8/2014, 5:28:50 PM · by celmak · 4 replies
Your post just rambles. It seems you have a problem with Jews. My answer to your rambling was "see my profile"
1)Ever since Nietzsche insisted that his opposition to the Jewish religion didn't make him anti-Semitic (according to him, anti-Semitism was an ethnic prejudice and anti-Semitic chrstians actually got their religion from the Torah) actual practicing of Judaism has had less and less to do with Jewish identity. Some of these sick people actually believe that their attacks on Israel make them "more" Jewish because they are attacking the origin of anti-Semitic chrstianity: HaShem and the Torah. Jews conquering land? Kicking tachat and taking shemot? Shooting guns? Farmin'? All of that is so un-Jewish! Why, only anti-Jewish chrstians do that sort of thing based on their great hero, Yehoshu`a Bin Nun!
2)Secondly, I wish to deal with the issue of people who hit Israel over the head with anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews. Now, I can understand completely the latter's belief that the restoration of Jewish sovereignty in 'Eretz Yisra'el prior to Mashiach was accomplished in opposition to the Divine Will and should never have been done. I can understand their opposition to a "secular Jewish state" (a contradiction in terms). But I get really ticked off when anti-Zionist non-Jews (especially ignorant lumps who think "Zionism" means "everything that could possibly be wrong with the world") invoke anti-Zionist Charedim as examples of "good little Jews" who don't want to evilly rule the world like those great big bad old Zionists do. Just today I visited a conservative Catholic Scottish site to see what they were saying about Scottish independence and there was not a world about it. Instead--you guessed it--there was a whole article on the ee-vils of Zionism complete with a statement from anti-Zionist Charedim which the imbeciles apparently took in just the way I described.
All these anti-Zionist right wingers should just join Arab Communist organizations. That's really where they belong.
Anyway, my two cents.
As to the writer of the article "rambling", he is a conservative Jew who defends Israel. Read the story again and you can see this.
As for me and having "a problem with Jews", with self hating Jews you will be correct - they hate Israel.
I’m thinking that they hate Israel for them suffering under the Holocaust. Or that Israel is bringing down on their heads all the suffering they’re going through today. Being Jewish, suffering is a past-time with us. LOL
The title of this article is “I am a self-hating Jew. not the title posted.
You may be correct. You may want to comment on the article at the original website and ask the author; I know he will answer you. Here is the link to this story (I accidentally put on the wrong title to it):
Where in the article do you think the author exemplifies himself as an "anti-Zionist right winger?"
Yes, the author of the story has said the same to me. But in defense of the author, he is defending Israel in this article. Or am I getting the wrong impression you are trying to give of the author?
Enjoyed your profile page.
Thank you. It still needs a bit of touching up.
It was pretty involved. It was hard to get his meaning so if I misconstrued I apologize.
No prob. You do have a cool profile page by the way.
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