Posted on 06/25/2014 8:10:58 AM PDT by fishtank
Chimp DNA Mutation Study--Selective Yet Surprising
by Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D. *
A popular evolutionary belief is that humans and chimps shared a common ancestor 2 to 6 million years ago. Apparently, evolutionists still aren't too sure of their own theory: now they've more than doubled that timeline.
Scientists just published a study describing chimp DNA mutation rates and compared a number of cherry-picked genomic regions to humanand this research doubled their evolutionary timeline.1 However, the selective data did not account for the vast chasm of documented genome differences that were not included in the analyses.
Heritable mutations are the rare changes that occur in DNA during the process of making egg cells in females and sperm in males, known as the germ line. Scientists believe that by determining the rate of mutations in the germ line, they can predict when evolutionary events occurred in the past. In this recent study, they sequenced the germ line genomes of nine different chimpanzees in a three-generation pedigree (family).
The researchers then compared selected DNA segments between chimpanzee and human that were highly similar, omitting the many non-similar regions. They state, "In the intersection of the autosomal genome accessible in this study and regions where human and chimpanzee genomes can be aligned with high confidence, the rate is slightly lower (0.45 × 10−9 bp−1 year−1) and the level of divergence is 1.2%...implying an average time to the most common ancestor of 13 million years [page 1274, emphasis added]."1 There are basically two notable points from this summary statement that I will address.
(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...
***Thanks for the links although Im puzzled as to why you posted them, they dont address the issue of how many people where on the planet and how many languages they spoke during the Bronze Age.***
The article from Dr. Carter didn’t include a lot of information that he gives in his power point presentation. My bad..... I assumed that it did.
I put in the links about the Miautso people because they provide extra-biblical confirmation of the biblical account of the flood.
When missionaries found the Miautso they had no written language (and obviously had not seen or read a bible), they relied on oral accounts and traditions. They were meticulous about their genealogies and recited them at weddings and funerals. Their lineage goes back to Nuah (and eventually all the way back to “Dirt”) through Lo-Shen. Lo-Shen had two brothers named Lo-Han and Lo-Jahphu. We would call them Noah and his three sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth.
Nuah and his sons, according to Miautso tradition, survived a global flood. When you read their account, it tracks pretty closely with the biblical account.
I don’t think that I could possibly give you any links that would change your mind... but any study done on the number of people and the number of languages from an early time period would have to be based on models. These articles will show you that there are viable models that support the biblical accounts:
http://www.ldolphin.org/popul.html
http://creation.com/population-growth-since-flood
http://creation.com/where-are-all-the-people
Here is an interesting article about language:
http://creation.com/the-tower-of-babel-account-affirmed-by-linguistics
***The evidence that there were more than 8 and that they spoke more than one is overwhelming.***
I would say that the evidence is not overwhelming. I’m sure you could link articles taking the other side.
The only thing that anyone can do to defend their position is to propose a plausible model and see if the evidence fits. I believe that the Creationist (Biblical) side has done that.
When it reaches the point that another (self-claimed) believer questions one's very roots of belief, what is left for one to say in one's own defense?
Thank you for your testimonies, and for all the wonderful insights you are bringing to this discussion -- now that you have the time to do so!
May our Lord richly bless you in your daily challenges, and in your sharing with us, here!!
May God ever bless you and all your loved ones!
Exactly NOTHING, dear brother in Christ!
IMHO, FWIW.
Such folk are not just questioning you, they are judging you. And the criterion of judgment that they use is the "correctness" of your understanding of Holy Scripture, as they see it.
IOW, what they are implicitly saying is that your salvation depends on your "correct" understanding of Scripture, and not so much about how you live your life.
Yet to me, a Christian life is not so much defined by what one "knows"; it is defined by how one lives following Christ.
Christ tells us to love our neighbor as ourself; to be a mediator of His peace, love, light, forgiveness, kindness, understanding, in faith and hope, into this world of mortality. He does not authorize us to be the "judge" of anything, let alone of our neighbor.
Judgment is His exclusive privilege to be exercised when He comes the next time, with fire in His eyes, and a flaming sword in His hand....
That being the case, my best recommendation to all is to cultivate humility, or poverty of spirit. This is what gains a reward in Heaven. What one knows or thinks one knows is completely irrelevant on Judgment Day.
Just my humble thoughts on the matter, FWIW.
May the love and peace and mercy and light of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ be with you always you, and all your dear ones!
Thank you so much for sharing your testimony and exhortations, dearest sister in Christ!
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