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Another Wall Street liberal trying to make an invalid case....

1 posted on 06/11/2014 10:46:34 AM PDT by illiac
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lying sack of donkey turds. This lie is so easily disproved. They make who wealthy excpet the businesses that hire them? Do we only measure that efect? Not what they steal from society? Not by the jobs they cost citizens?


27 posted on 06/11/2014 10:58:24 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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” But the Tea Party should favor sensible immigration reform with border controls.”

There are no border controls it is all a charade. What we didn was lower your taxes and now you can just stab us in the back out of your own greed. Screw you.


29 posted on 06/11/2014 10:58:33 AM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is a feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing corksucker.)
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"In 2013 the labor-force participation of foreign-born workers was higher than native-born workers (66.4% vs. 62.7%)."

Maybe if there were fewer immigrants, legal or illegal, the native-born participation rate would be higher? Just maybe?
30 posted on 06/11/2014 10:58:42 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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Just like the Chamber of Commerce, cheap labor. Never mind the consequences down the road.


31 posted on 06/11/2014 11:00:19 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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“Opinion: Immigrants are productive and make us a richer nation “

Oh yeah! That’s why immigrant drenched California went from Reagan Country to the Paradise that it is today! /s


32 posted on 06/11/2014 11:00:49 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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I work for a financial company and you have no idea how much it aggrivates and frustrates me to read this mindless progressive drivel from MarketWatch everyday! The publication apparently has no idea that it’s readership base is largely made up of conservative Republicans.


33 posted on 06/11/2014 11:00:57 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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“Diana Furchtgott-Roth”

I never would’ve expected this from a woman with a dashifinated name.

/s


35 posted on 06/11/2014 11:02:03 AM PDT by moovova
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TEA Partiers aren’t opposed to an orderly, quota-guided, secure system of immigration.

But ANYONE — Liberals as well as Americans — should oppose the border mess that’s occurring now.


36 posted on 06/11/2014 11:02:27 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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How long are they gonna try to sell these lies?

What this writer asserts has not been true since 1965, when we stopped screening immigrants for what they had to offer the US.

37 posted on 06/11/2014 11:03:57 AM PDT by skeeter
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1. Female Liberal.
2. Hyphenated name.
3. Deals in deep Bravo Sierra.

That’s three strikes.

RAUS!


38 posted on 06/11/2014 11:05:45 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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"But the Tea Party should favor 'sensible immigration reform with border controls.'"

We DID, it was in the 1987 Simpson/Massoli Bill, signed by Pres. Ronald Reagan! It was supposed to grant Amnesty to 1.5M illegal aliens, instead was more than 3M (notice 3 X the amount claimed wound up being many, many more than liberals claim - they LIE) but also claimed to stop further invasion by illegal aliens, i.e. closing our borders, punishing employers for hiring illegal aliens, and other provisions. !

We do NOT need another Simpson/Massoli, just enforcement of those provisions should take care of everything!!

39 posted on 06/11/2014 11:06:23 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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I have no problem with immigration.
I would allow a limited number of those who share our values and will contribute to our society to immigrate.
And I would change the law to favor those who share our values and are likely to contribute.

I do have a problem with law-breakers and with those who coddle law-breakers.

I do have a problem with mass invasions of those who would pillage our citizens, defy our laws, despise our values, and oppress those who built this nation.

I am obviously a racist.


40 posted on 06/11/2014 11:07:21 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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“Immigrants are productive and make us a richer nation “

Except that every major study ways that illegal aliens are a net cost to the federal government to the tune of $60 billion a year. And that isn’t counting the states’ costs of many billions more.


44 posted on 06/11/2014 11:09:44 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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This is satire, right?


46 posted on 06/11/2014 11:11:44 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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We have just had the two highest decades of legal immigration in our history with over 26 million legal permanent immigrants entering during the period 1990 to 2010. In 1970 one in 21 in the U.S. was foreign-born; today, it is one in 8, the highest in over 90 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history. In 1970 we had 9.7 million foreign-born and by 2010 that number had quadrupled to 40 million. We bring in 1.1 million legal permanent immigrants a year—more than the rest of the world combined. 44 percent of the adult legal immigrant heads of household and 78 percent of the illegal aliens (51 percent have no high school diploma) have a high school diploma or less. We are importing hundreds of thousands of unskilled and uneducated workers annually who will compete for jobs with the 40 percent of native-born adults who have a high school diploma or less. The results have been devastating.

In the fourth quarter of 2013, the standard unemployment rate (referred to as U-3) for native-born adults (age 18-65) who have not completed high school was 16.6 percent, while for those with only a high school education it was 8.5 percent. The broader U-6 measure of unemployment — which includes those who want to work, but have not looked recently, and those forced to work part-time — was 28.7 percent for native-born adults who have not completed high school and 16.5 percent for those with only a high school education. Minorities have fared even worse.

The U-6 rate for native-born African-Americans without a high school diploma was 40.4 percent and 27.5 percent for those with only a high school diploma. For native-born Hispanic-Americans the U-6 rate for those without a high school diploma was 30.8 percent and 20.9 percent for those with a high school diploma. In a letter from three members of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, they state that an amnesty will “likely disproportionately harm lower-skilled African-Americans by making it more difficult for them to obtain employment and depressing their wages when they do obtain employment.”

In the fourth quarter of 2013, there were only two working-age natives holding a job for every one that was not employed. This represents a huge deterioration. As recently as 2000, there were three working-age adults holding a job for every one not working. 24.8 percent of all children of the native-born working poor live in households headed by a high school dropout.

There are currently 61.1 million American men in their prime working years, age 25–54. An amazing one in 8 such men are not in the labor force at all, meaning they are neither working nor looking for work. This is an all-time high dating back to when records were first kept in 1955. An additional 2.9 million men are in the labor force but not employed (i.e., they are looking for jobs). That means a total of 10.2 million men aged 25-54 – or one out of every 6 men in his prime working years – are not holding jobs in the U.S. economy today. During the decade ending 2010, the largest in our history with 13.9 million legal permanent immigrants entering the country, we had a net loss of 400,000 jobs during that same period. There is no correlation between our job needs and immigration.

Data from 2011 show that an astonishing 57 percent of immigrant households with children accessed at least one major welfare program — particularly the non-cash programs such as food stamps and Medicaid. In 2010, 23 percent of immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) lived in poverty, compared to 13.5 percent of natives and their children. Immigrants and their children accounted for one-fourth of all persons in poverty. 29 percent of immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) lacked health insurance, compared to 13.8 percent of natives and their children. New immigrants and their U.S.-born children account for two-thirds of the increase in the uninsured since 2000. There are 10.4 million students from immigrant households in public schools, accounting for one in 5 public school students. Of these students, 78 percent speak a language other than English at home. Overall, one in 4 public school students now speaks a language other than English at home. Milton Friedman said, “You cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state.” We have both.


48 posted on 06/11/2014 11:12:53 AM PDT by kabar
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I'm all for LEGAL immigration.
All the reform we need is to enforce existing laws.
If we genuinely need more workers of some kind, we can easily adjust the visa quotas.

52 posted on 06/11/2014 11:16:32 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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Because 0bama will selectively enforce whatever law is passed.


53 posted on 06/11/2014 11:16:55 AM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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I know these dopes know the meaning of ILLEGAL! We object to ILLEGAL immigration! Stand in line, get your shots and wait your damned turn. Why is this so hard? Ellis Island? ANYONE?


56 posted on 06/11/2014 11:17:36 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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But the Tea Party should favor sensible immigration reform with border controls.

Seal the border and deport 20 million illegals first, then we can talk.

It would result in additional economic growth, allowing the government to cut spending and lower taxes — key tea-party demands.

I agree, sealing the border, deporting 20 million illegals and ending the anchor baby scam, would reduce spending and lower taxes.

58 posted on 06/11/2014 11:18:34 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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It’s crazy how DUMB the DC-class of both parties thinks we are. They casually interchange immigration with illegal immigrants and name-call anyone opposing amnesty. Someone opposed to legalizing everyone and keeping porous borders is anti-immigrant.

THEN, you have the same crowd playing word games with the definition of amnesty. Like Brit Hume (who I usually like), completely and purposely redefining anything that is short of just legalizing everyone immediately as ‘not amnesty’. Amnesty is anything giving people here illegally a shortcut or leg up in the naturalization process. That’s a moderate view. A stricter definition is even allowing someone who broke our laws to get here any ability to stay and not be deported.

I see room from some moderate right solution...extending work visas to get people here in a legal stance...but absolutely no path to citizenship related to that new status. Mass roundups and deporting is not politically viable....but we can tighten border security, strengthen employer verification, expand worker visas and fix that system to attract and keep high skill tech workers (which is the main goal of the techie push for comprehensive reform). Personally, I’m fine with that. I’d even give a nod to children who came here at a young age becoming a citizen at 18. Not their families, but just them.


61 posted on 06/11/2014 11:20:53 AM PDT by ilgipper
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