Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Voters in California contemplate forming new state
AP / Yahoo! ^ | May 28, 2014 | Juliet Williams

Posted on 05/28/2014 3:24:13 PM PDT by bamahead

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Residents of California's largely rural, agrarian and politically conservative far northern counties long ago got used to feeling ignored in the state Capitol and out of sync with major urban areas.

The idea of forming their own state has been a topic among local secession dreamers for more than a century. Residents in two counties will have a chance to voice that sentiment next week.

Voters in Del Norte and Tehama, with a combined population of about 91,000, will decide June 3 on an advisory measure that asks each county's board of supervisors to join a wider effort to form a 51st state named Jefferson.

--SNIP--

Many state-of-Jefferson meetings are held in conjunction with tea party groups, who share similar concerns over what Siskiyou County Supervisor Marcia Armstrong calls "so many nanny laws" coming from Sacramento.

"We are very libertarian in view, and we believe that people would have freedom to make their own choices as long as they don't impose on other people's rights," she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; freestate; jefferson; sixcalifornias; slavestate
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-42 next last
To: bamahead

The last time those counties seriously tried this, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, and it all became just a memory.


21 posted on 05/28/2014 4:33:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

They should make the capital the city of Thomas.


22 posted on 05/28/2014 4:49:37 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

Article IV US Constitution:

“Section 3. New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

The California House and Senate and the US House and Senate would all have to agree to the formation of a new State from within the borders of California.


23 posted on 05/28/2014 4:59:23 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

Stupid


24 posted on 05/28/2014 5:09:06 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

Why don’t we just give California to Mexico as California del Norte? Doing so would solve a host of problems for us and for Mexico.


25 posted on 05/28/2014 5:16:44 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libertynotfree

I too think it’s silly to “ chop up “ California . . . just let it fall into the sea !

Snoot ;o)


26 posted on 05/28/2014 5:16:59 PM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: exit82
Article IV US Constitution:

“Section 3. New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

The California House and Senate and the US House and Senate would all have to agree to the formation of a new State from within the borders of California.


Good thing it's just the U.S. Constitution; they're already well practiced at ignoring that. No problem.
27 posted on 05/28/2014 5:18:25 PM PDT by Resettozero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

please form a new COUNTRY and leave real Americans alone.


28 posted on 05/28/2014 5:39:56 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oliviaforever; Resettozero; 2ndDivisionVet; RIghtwardHo; bamahead
Ah Yes,

For every Republican State we allow into the Union they will demand we allow a Slave Sta- I mean Democrat State.

A Compromise if you will, that should be held in Missouri......

I have read something about that and where it leads too.....

29 posted on 05/28/2014 5:50:35 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Oliviaforever
Breaking up the states by county would give us 3143 states, 6386 people in the US Senate, 10,0000 or so people in the House.

The Feds would get nothing done and we would all have home rule.


Now THAT'S the kind of thinking that made America great?

8>)
30 posted on 05/28/2014 5:56:47 PM PDT by Resettozero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

Califorina will be unlikely to permit this, althou we should support it.

Its not in our interest to have 1 state dominate the west coast.


31 posted on 05/28/2014 5:58:40 PM PDT by Monorprise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kvanbrunt2
i think central PA should have dibs on Franklin cuse he lived here.

Otay, I release the rights to the State of Franklin to Central Pennsylvania. Besides, the territory I mentioned would be landlocked. Which may be why they didn't make the State of Franklin as shown on proposed maps of that time.
32 posted on 05/28/2014 6:10:36 PM PDT by Resettozero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: bamahead
Residents of California's largely rural, agrarian and politically conservative far northern counties. . . Bigfootia?
33 posted on 05/28/2014 6:14:39 PM PDT by Oratam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Resettozero
Otay, I release the rights to the State of Franklin to Central Pennsylvania. Besides, the territory I mentioned would be landlocked. Which may be why they didn't make the State of Franklin as shown on proposed maps of that time.

Too late...the State of Franklin name is already a part of institutions in East Tennessee...State of Franklin Bank, State of Franklin highway, and so forth.

34 posted on 05/28/2014 6:15:31 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Resettozero

landlocked. so would central pa. but we could blast the dam at conawingo and be home free.


35 posted on 05/28/2014 6:25:40 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: who knows what evil?
Too late...the State of Franklin name is already a part of institutions in East Tennessee...State of Franklin Bank, State of Franklin highway, and so forth.

Ah yes; that OTHER, more subversive State of Franklin!

Californians in the mentioned area might want to take note of that bit of American history!
36 posted on 05/28/2014 6:34:52 PM PDT by Resettozero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

Chances of statehood happening are nil Still, I think they have a right to their own governance if they so choose. So here’s an idea that hasn’t been floated; skip becoming a new state, because it isn’t going to happen. They might seek to become an organized, incorporated US territory instead. We don’t have any since Alaska and Hawaii became states. Doing so would sidestep the question of picking up two senators which is going to be an insurmountable feat anyway.

Interesting trivia point is that our unincorporated, organized territories such as Guam and USVI pay income taxes, but they go to the territory in question, not the Federal government.


37 posted on 05/28/2014 7:15:00 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Relocate and Dominate: freestateproject.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Resettozero

Upper Michigan has dibs on ‘Superior’.


38 posted on 05/28/2014 8:28:32 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Oliviaforever
The Feds would get nothing done

I'm confused. Is that an argument for or against?

39 posted on 05/28/2014 8:31:36 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

For.


40 posted on 05/28/2014 8:48:39 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-42 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson