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To: Jim Robinson

The rabble rousing around here is going down a dangerous path.

I believe this is the wrong battle to fight. All that will happen is a lot of people will die, for a guy who has been found wrong in a court—time after time after time.

To think this guy is in the right, you are saying that four different courts are in on the conspiracy.

I respectfully disagree. You can argue about whether the turtle is right or wrong, but this guy is operating against the findings of the court system.

Are we a nation of laws or not?


282 posted on 04/14/2014 8:14:25 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vermont Lt
"Are we a nation of laws or not?"

Obama and the DOJ negated that option.

What sane person believes the US Court system dispenses or adjudicates justice?

MAnd who protest with arms get FAR more respect than a lawyer in court.

Let's have it out. Let the pussies stay home and hope they're not involved.

289 posted on 04/14/2014 8:18:00 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Are we a nation of laws or not”

is that a serious question? you do have this tool called the ‘net that can help you answer that.


294 posted on 04/14/2014 8:24:27 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: Vermont Lt
Are we a nation of laws or not?

It depends upon your perspective. We were FOUNDED as a nation of laws, and taught to adhere to them always because the concept was what made all of us as a people great.

When you have bad laws being forced upon the populace to their detriment upon pain of death, and yes the LEOs can shoot and kill you and your dog if you do not obey or do not "stop resisting arrest" because you continue to breathe and they have not yet managed to dislocate your shoulders and you still have blood flowing to your extremities, then the "law" has become corrupt and more in the manner of the Sheriff of Nottingham's tax-payment efforts than a manner of helping any citizen of this country.

Or, if you are Barky, mrs bill, or Eric (the "with-") Holder, you simply ignore the law by selective reinforcement and harassment of your political enemies.

Then at the very best our country is no longer the same as the founding fathers intended, and indeed some would argue, that based upon several incidents that the political elite are getting away with...

No, we are not.

305 posted on 04/14/2014 8:31:59 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Vermont Lt
not since state and federal government quit obeying them...
345 posted on 04/14/2014 9:30:40 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Vermont Lt; Jim Robinson
Are we a nation of laws or not?

You joined Free Republic before the March for Justice, and you have the nerve to ask that question?

Did Bill Clinton serve a ten-year sentence for perjury?

375 posted on 04/14/2014 9:59:36 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Vermont Lt
Are we a nation of laws or not?

Illegal Immigration

Benghazi

Obamacare (revenue measure initiated in Senate: unconstitutional unless a penalty)

Obamacare: Rewritten by SCOTUS to have a tax, not a penalty, which would be unConstitutional because the tax measure originated in the Senate instead of the House) SCOTUS isn't supposed to write laws, just rule on them.

Obamacare: rewritten by executive fiat, exemptions made (equal protection); exemptions denied on First Amendment grounds.

IRS used to target Conservative groups, anti-voter fraud groups, and individuals affiliated with them, almost exclusively as opposed to Liberal nonprofits.

Fast and Furious

No credible records released concerning the provenance of the occupant at 1600 PA Ave.; every case dismissed for lack of 'standing', even though campaign interviews for that occupant when he ran for Senate claimed he was a Kenyan.

These are just a few high points, but ...Are we a nation of laws or not?

You tell me. Considering Reid's ties to the Chinese Solar outfit, why this land, why now?

If you or I had owned that land, the Bundys would have had a solid case for having it awarded to them for adverse possession (Squatter's rights).

The bottom line, however, is that Bundy's situation, whether born of right or wrong, on whomever's part, has become symbolic of Government attacks on the Liberty of Americans, right down to attacking one of the most enduring symbols of freedom in America: the cowboy.

When you add in that very credible thought that this is mainly being done there and now to grease the skids for foreign interests to make a buck and likely enrich a politician's family considered by many to be thoroughly corrupt, the symbol will prevail over any facts which may have been to the contrary, because people do not trust the government.

Overt violent action by the government will light the fuse on the powder keg, anything which can be suspected of foul play by the Government will add powder.

Whether you agree with Bundy is as immaterial as whether you agreed with the Branch Davidians or Randy Weaver, the ball is in the Government's court, and what they do and how they do it will determine the immediate outcome.

409 posted on 04/14/2014 10:58:39 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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