Posted on 04/13/2014 5:05:22 PM PDT by EveningStar
Even with Michigan recently becoming the 34th state to call for a Constitutional Convention, it's not at all certain that a rewrite of the nation's founding document is close at hand...
Unless called to deal with a specific issue, some legal experts warn a "runaway" convention could create chaos.
"Let's assume that we get Congress to call for a convention, and we are deliberating about one item. Maybe that would stick. But how can you be confident that once you open the door to a constitutional convention, even if for one narrow amendment, that it won't just become a runaway convention?" said Steve Hayward, a visiting scholar in conservative thought and policy at the University of Colorado in Boulder.
"It seems to me that our Constitution may have problems these days, but I think most conservatives would be very nervous about opening it up to a new convention," Hayward told Newsmax...
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It actually isn’t fine the way it is.
It created the beast that is devouring us whole the way it is.
The federal government needs to be greatly curtailed, and it isn’t going to greatly curtail itself.
Con con or amendment proposal...
Look for a move to eliminate the 2-term limit, and make it applicable to the current POTUS. The Obama knows how to pull the appropriate strings and write motivating checks.
Not if you and I and our State Legislatures do our jobs and keep track of the delegates we send to the COS.
Pretty basic stuff - there's NOTHING to fear if you've got your head completely screwed on to your shoulders, because the delegates are monitored by the States what sent em.
There is no limit to the number of representatives each state can send, and any of them can come and go an communicat with their legislatures and constituents. Only the U.S. Congress is excluded from the procedings. And each state has the same number of votes.
ONE!
I like that you talk so much about taxes.
Lots of folks want a balanced budget but refuse to limit the way it will be balanced.....because if you tax the crap out of everyone you might balance it but what then, we are left penniless.
the 14th on out should be repealed
The Constitution didn’t create the beast that is devouring us, IGNORING the COnstitution did.
Yes, it did.
It created the framework of the us federal government.
For as much good as it did, it also created that. And the reason the creation is flawed is because it relies on the morality of man, and we can clearly see in this society, as well as in others, that that morality can very easily fail.
To trust men with power over other men is folly.
Man must govern himself, and he must do this with morality and with Jesus Christ.
Now don’t get me wrong, I love the constitution. But I have to level this criticism because I am an honest man. I may be wrong about it, but I do not think that I am.
I believe that the only way to address this problem civilly at this point is with an Article V convention.
The constitution gave us the civil tool to tame an out of control government, and that is exactly what we have.
We either use that tool, or we find another way, or we get consumed by the beast.
Elections aren’t going to solve this, because the election system has been corrupted, the people running for office are liars, and the people voting for them have been fooled in a way that doesn’t seem easily or quickly reversible.
This is where we are as I see it.
Yeah, by all means - let’s see how the self-indulgent, PC mob shreds the constitution, one of the greatest documents in recorded history, in order to further a lot of Orwellian newspeak garbage and Liberal fantasy.
No good will come from opening to alteration the solid foundation of what has been of late a dreadful construction. Tear down the latest fabrications, but leave that foundation alone.
What comes of this might have no resemblance to that original. Those who have done all in their power to daily subvert the Constitution will show up to write a new one in droves. There is no guarantee that good will carry the day, and every indication otherwise.
It cannot protect our freedom against a mendacious government. No, that is OUR JOB!
It was not written to contain the type of people we have in government. Wrong again, the ideology was put on parchment to guide the Generations that followed the Founding Fathers, see above.
I think some sensible additions will correct things. O.K. now I see the problem- You are "thinking"
It created the beast that is devouring us whole the way it is. No, We allowed that to happen. Now it is up to Us to fix it.
The federal government needs to be greatly curtailed, and it isnt going to greatly curtail itself. That part You got right.
An Article V is the ONLY way we get term limits. Legislators would pass it in a heartbeat as they would all see it as an opportunity for themselves to have an open seat every XX number of years.
My proposal is 6 terms for Reps., 2 terms for Senators and 3 for President. That way everyone serves 12 years and no more.
Also better language for what is a ‘Natural Born Citizen’
Flame away!
Yes My Brothers!
Now put your hands under the boot in the back of your TV sets and "FEEL THE POWER!"
States will send delegates. These agents of the states will have commissions that delineate exactly what they are authorized to do.
For example, Here is the summary of Florida's bill:
<>Article V Constitutional Convention: Establishes qualifications of delegates & alternate delegates to Article V constitutional convention; provides for appointment of delegates by Legislature; authorizes Legislature to recall delegate & fill vacancy; authorizes presiding officers to call special legislative session to carry out certain provisions relating to appointments; requires delegates to sign oath; provides for instructions to delegates; establishes circumstances under which convention vote is declared void; provides circumstances under which delegate's appointment is forfeited; establishes circumstances under which application to call Article V convention ceases to be continuing application & is deemed to have no effect; provides penalties; establishes delegate advisory group.<>
The process will be under tight state control.
Yes, it is horrible.
Ninety percent or more of Freepers can't be bothered with reading the source column to the average post before responding.
It is even worse when it comes to Article V. It is nearly impossible to have an intelligent discussion with people who purposely keep themselves ignorant.
Soros commands dozens, if not hundreds of loony-tune leftist groups, and with a few phone calls can get his issues out in the media.
If what Article V opponents say is true, where is the left media support?
Also, why did almost every rat in the FL and AL state houses vote against the conventionofstates application?
The Soros crew knows our once republic has been diving headlong into social justice tyranny for 80 years without changing a single clause in the Constitution. There is the written and the Scotus amended constitution. We think the written constitution is in effect, when in actuality, it is the bastardized version that rules.
An Article V convention is no guarantee, but rather our last hope before less than peaceful means emerge.
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