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To: T-Bird45

I’m a big history buff, but it’s hard for me to come up with another person who held no official office or title, was not a sexual consort, and yet had enormous influence over a ruler, and all of it was bad. Given some time, I may come up with someone.


29 posted on 11/06/2013 8:21:45 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: henkster

look at French/British history i am sure you will find something i can’t think of just who.


30 posted on 11/06/2013 8:45:05 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: henkster
it’s hard for me to come up with another person who held no official office or title, was not a sexual consort, and yet had enormous influence over a ruler, and all of it was bad.

Martin Bormann.

49 posted on 11/06/2013 6:55:19 PM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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