Posted on 10/17/2013 4:54:44 AM PDT by xzins
On his radio show recently, Glenn Beck urged his listeners to defund the GOP. Sarah Palin has threatened to leave the Republican Party; Rush Limbaugh calls it irrelevant. The Senate Conservatives Fund has targeted mainly incumbent Republican senators for defeat. Erick Erickson, one of the rights most prominent commentators, wonders if what's coming is a real third party movement that will fully divide the Republican Party.
Conservatives have declared war on the GOP.
Tired of feeling taken for granted by a party that alternately panders to them and sells them down the river, in their view, Tea Partiers and others on the right are in revolt. The Republican Party itself is increasingly the focus of their anger, particularly after Wednesday's deal to reopen the government, which many on the right opposed.
"Conservatives are either going to split from the GOP or stay home. They'll first expend energy in primaries, but if unsuccessful, they'll bolt."
Erickson, a former Republican elected official in Georgia... I think the GOP is already splitting, he said, with grassroots activists feeling played by elected officials unfulfilled promises to defeat Obamacare.
Steve Deace, an Iowa-based talk-radio host, said his audience has never been angrier. Theyre tired of electing a bunch of Republicans who care more about what the media thinks about them than what the people who elected them think, he told me. Why do I care whether John Boehner or Nancy Pelosi is the speaker of the House? Why do I care whether Harry Reid or Ditch McConnell is the Senate majority leader? What changes? Nothing changes.
Sean Hannity, on his radio show on Monday, said hed previously opposed a third party, but Im not so sure anymore. It may be time for a new conservative party in America. Im sick of these guys.
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“Abortion. If it’s a issue that stays with the states, we can coexist on that issue.”
The Right to Life is a Natural Right. The Constitution, in both the 5th and 14th Amendment respects that right, but doesn’t create it. It’s a Right that comes from our Creator.
Here’s the thing about libertarians and natural rights. Almost everything libertarians agree on about economics come from the men who framed the thoughts that we are free men, with Natural Rights not enshrined in government but granted to us from our Creator. It’s a concept that paved the way for our republic and the Constitution that libertarians love so dear. How can libertarians embrace this concept yet ignore its principle imports?
1. What makes you think the states have the right to outlaw a Natural Right when the fedgov doesn’t?
2. What makes you think that allowing the states to deny a human being a Natural Right is a compromise that we can co-exist with?
No.
The libertarians have enough in common with conservatives to join us in a big tent. I agree with you about that. Having said that, asking conservatives to throw down the long poles of their core beliefs is tantamount to knocking down any such tent’s core supports.
“What took you so long?”
Actually, I’ve been done with then for a long time, but the Tea Party sort of revived my hopes.
Bush 41’s cave on taxes didn’t do my hopes any good, and then came the 94 election, but the go along to get along Republicans sabotaged a lot of that, and then came the aughties, and Bush 43, and then McCain and Romney.
I lost faith in the local GOP when I found that a lot of them, including our Republican congressthing, supported the Dems in our city, more than ten years ago. We tried to revitalize the GOP in the city, and found our way blocked by the local GOP leadership.
I’m not sure where to go at this point. Maybe organize and train local militias, hoard weapons, ammo, and necessities to get ready for the inevitable collapse.
Only if Tea Party groups get off their lazy butts and get back out in the streets. They've been quiet for way too long.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Have to review Mike Turner's votes, but Jim Jordan? I'll give him money any day.
The GOP has largely abandoned conservative principles. Is it any surprise that conservatives are inclined to abandon the GOP?
Libertarians are very open at meetings. It is a small but well organized party. Conservatives looking for a new home could easily overwhelm the meetings.
The LP has a very good organization for putting candidates on the ballot in all 50 states. This could be a vehicle to ride to a new, freedom loving home.
As for the pro life/pro choice thing, the only victories in that battle lately have come form the state level. Keep the fight on the battlefield where we are winning.
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We need a new photo. Dead- err, Ted Kennedy (D- HELL) is still showing up.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3080011/posts
The Congress relinquished the power of the purse. We now live in a dictatorship. King Obama will raise the debt limit to whatever he needs to destroy our wealth and our future.
No there are OTHER ways, not just Art. V. We have the 2nd Amend/Civil War and/or a Second Declaration of Independence.
I wouldn’t trust a Const. Conv. with the likes of CA, IL and the whole N.E. corridor
Since the GOP gives the Obama Democrats everything they want, what's the point of the existence of the Obama GOP? It has no reason to exist.
Who’s going to stay in the GOP? All chief’s no indians. They have no voters.
Congress has ILLEGALLY, the Const. does NOT give them the authority to give away what We the People have given them, relinquished most of its duties.
It’s good to see some people finally waking up, but we haven’t been a Const. Republic for a long, LONG time
port man is dead in my book. The man doesn’t have one gonad in his body, ever since he caved over has queer son he has done NOTHING to help the conservative cause. This man can’t be defeated soon enough for me.
The vote from the right will be split or ‘stay home’ and the left will continue to elect Presidents like Obama.
As that domination increases, the country will be irrevocably transformed into the ‘progressive’ mold—bigger government, less freedom, more taxes on the middle class workers, less entrepaneurship because of more regulations.
And everyone on all sides of the political spectrum will be standing in a completely changed and transformed America shouting, “I'm right.” It won't take many national elections to destroy this Republic.
Paid lobbying should be a felony with a minimum penalty of 10 years on the chain gang for the first offense.
Lobbying is just a symptom of the disease, that Government has too much power.
We have a one party political system.
Read Mark Levin’s book—it is a controllable process.
He was one of a handful to vote with Cruz against cloture. I’m with him.
I’ve been awake—but THIS is something profoundly and fundamentally different. Now that Obama has total control over the debt limit, he can effectively increase his borrowing without HOUSE approval. The House of Representatives is now null and void.
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