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To: BroJoeK
From Trench regarding the translation of Colossians 2:9.

In Colossians 2:9, theotēs (θεοτης) is used. Here Trench says, “Paul is declaring that in the Son there dwells all the fulness of absolute Godhead; they were no mere rays of divine glory which gilded Him, lighting up His Person for a season and with splendor not His own; but He was, and is, absolute and perfect God; and the apostle uses theotēs (θεοτης) to express this essential and personal Godhead of the Son.” Here the word “divinity” will not do, only the word “deity.” It is well in these days of apostasy, to speak of the deity of the Lord Jesus, not using the word “divinity” when we are referring to the fact that He is Very God. Modernism believes in His divinity, but in a way different from the scriptural conception of the term. Modernism has the pantheistic conception of the deity permeating all things and every man. Thus divinity, it says, is resident in every human being. It was resident in Christ as in all men. The difference between the divinity of Christ and that of all other men, it says, is one of degree, not of kind. Paul never speaks of the divinity of Christ, only of His deity. Our Lord has divine attributes since He is deity, but that is quite another matter from the Modernistic conception.

Translation. Because in Him there is continuously and permanently at home all the fulness of the Godhead in bodily fashion.

2,712 posted on 01/02/2014 8:02:03 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: GarySpFc
GarySpFc: "Translation. Because in Him there is continuously and permanently at home all the fulness of the Godhead in bodily fashion."

I respect your translation as a valid understanding for people who wish to see it that way.
But some do not, and historically, that was not the predominant view amongst the earliest Christians.
Many of those Christians saw Jesus as "divine" or "deity" without being God Himself.

It was also arguably not the view of many of our Founders whose Christianity was influenced by Enlightenment Age theism/deism, Unitarian and/or Freemason ideas.
They are the reason I'm here defending such "God Damned Heretics" against spurious accusations.

2,739 posted on 01/03/2014 5:20:27 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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