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To: GarySpFc
GarySpFc: "Col 1:19 and 2:9 clearly and emphatically state the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwells in Christ in bodily form.
If the FULLNESS of the Godhead dwells in Jesus Christ, then how much more of the Godhead needs to dwell in Him for Him to be considered God?"

FRiend, that same "fullness" is found in Ephesians 3:19, where it refers not to Jesus but to all Christians.
Surely you would not suggest this means that all Christians are also God Himself?

FRiend, the key to understanding here is realizing that, first and foremost, New Testament writers were all Jews, and while they certainly believed in Christ's divinity, they would, as Jews, in no possible way compromise the Oneness of God.
If that creates certain theological problems, I would suggest those can well remain unanswered, since obviously nobody knows enough to more concretely define God.

2,470 posted on 12/29/2013 12:49:45 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
FRiend, that same "fullness" is found in Ephesians 3:19, where it refers not to Jesus but to all Christians.
Surely you would not suggest this means that all Christians are also God Himself?

No! You apparently have never studied Greek.

The word Paul uses for God in Col. 2:9 (theotēs), translated “Deity,” is distinguished from another word (theiotēs) used often by ancient philosophers when referring to something or someone “divine.” The distinction is important for understanding Paul’s Christology. Christ is not “divine” in the sense that we speak of superb food as “simply divine” or of virtuous individuals as “godly.” Christ is much more than a superb person of godly virtue. Paul asserts that Christ Jesus is God in bodily form.

Col 2:9 is the only use of (theotēs) in the N.T. Clearly 2:9 does not refer to all Christians.

FRiend, the key to understanding here is realizing that, first and foremost, New Testament writers were all Jews, and while they certainly believed in Christ's divinity, they would, as Jews, in no possible way compromise the Oneness of God.
If that creates certain theological problems, I would suggest those can well remain unanswered, since obviously nobody knows enough to more concretely define God.

Firstly, I studied under a Jew for 9 years, and I understand their beliefs.
Secondly, Luke was a NT writer and a gentile.
Thirdly, God defines His attributes throughout the Word.
Fourthly, you are wrong on all points.

2,483 posted on 12/29/2013 2:15:47 PM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: BroJoeK

Ephesians 3:19

New International Version (NIV)

19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

FRiend, that same “fullness” is found in Ephesians 3:19, where it refers not to Jesus but to all Christians.
Surely you would not suggest this means that all Christians are also God Himself?
***It does not say that the fullness of the Godhead dwells in believers in bodily form. So, as usual, your heretical scripture twisting has been exposed as the false teaching properly condemned by Jesus as coming from the ‘sons of the devil’. It is a wonder that such heretics can weather the storm to be called Satanic by Jesus Himself.


2,518 posted on 12/29/2013 5:00:15 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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