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The Republican Replacement: The GOP is introducing a plan that would replace the health-care law...
National Review Online ^ | September 18, 2013 | Andrew Stiles

Posted on 09/18/2013 10:34:10 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 09/18/2013 10:34:11 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

MSM will bury this news in a back closet. They may not like Obamacare but they love abortion, gay marriage & gun control. So they will keep supporting president Zero.


2 posted on 09/18/2013 10:41:25 PM PDT by entropy12 (With no fear of re-election, Obama is becoming more radical left..thanks a lot all you who abstained)
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To: neverdem
Democrats have routinely criticized Republicans for attacking Obamacare without proposing a viable replacement

Obamacare is a replacement to the existing health plan in the USA. It is the best in the world and that is what Obamacare should be compared against.
It does need a few tweaks such as limiting the awards on medical malpractice lawsuits which driving up the cost of insurance for doctors and patients.

3 posted on 09/18/2013 10:42:05 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: neverdem

“...At less than 200 pages in length, it is considerably more digestible than Obamacare, a 2,700-page piece of legislation ..”

Ooops—if it’s not at least a thousand pages, it doesn’t stand a chance.


4 posted on 09/18/2013 10:46:01 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: neverdem
while families would be able to deduct $20,000.

I don't/can't work and have no taxes to pay. So of what use is the tax deduction? This seems targeted to the upper 20% of income brackets? That's going to go over well. /sarc

5 posted on 09/18/2013 10:49:13 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: neverdem
The world's best health care system needed only a couple of simple things to make it better:

Tort reform

Open insurance markets across state lines

But no. They had to go and @^%$ it up.

6 posted on 09/18/2013 10:51:37 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: oldbrowser

In addition you need something to insure precondition conditions. Find someone over 50 who’s never had a Basel Cell...detached retina....bad knee..depression..you can’t just price these folks out.


7 posted on 09/18/2013 10:52:46 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Blackirish

Some kind of tapering or phase-in provision is better than nothing when it comes to these thorny issues. I’d like insurance to go back inasmuch as possible to being insurance, not fancy maintenance plans as if your car insurance guaranteed so many oil changes per year.


8 posted on 09/18/2013 11:01:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Blackirish
In addition you need something to insure precondition conditions.

I agree that some kind of adjustment needs to be made.
However, The whole idea of insurance is that you are purchasing protection for a future illness. A group of people purchase this protection and only a smaller number of them actually will need to use it.

It's sort of like the lotto. A large number of people each put a small amount of money in the pot and the few people that get sick are able to draw on the money to cover the bills. If people are able to draw money out of the pot after they get sick, what would be the incentive to put money in advance?

9 posted on 09/18/2013 11:02:00 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: neverdem

And with as much gusto as they championed ZeroCare, they will denigrate and tear up the Repub alternative.


10 posted on 09/18/2013 11:04:12 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: neverdem

Medical care is incredibly expensive precisely because of the orgy of governmental and legal intervention put in place over the last forty five years and all the parasite industries that feed on red tape. Now the government and its lawyers are claiming absolute dominion over the whole ball of wax, with the IRS thugs to enforce it. It doesn’t get any worse folks.


11 posted on 09/18/2013 11:09:30 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: steve86
I don't/can't work and have no taxes to pay. So of what use is the tax deduction? This seems targeted to the upper 20% of income brackets? That's going to go over well. /sarc

It's a legit issue. Two families pay $1000 for insurance, but one family doesn't make enough to qualify for the tax deduction. So it ends up paying that $1000, whereas a wealthier family ends up paying $600+ or whatever rate they end up with after all their deductions. If the plan doesn't include a refundable credit, it's not merely regressive - it's actually unfair.

12 posted on 09/18/2013 11:13:27 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: neverdem

Bad timing at it’s worse dept!!!!

We are winning now...dont move too quickly on a replacement till the battle has been won.

This just gives the enemy more life.


13 posted on 09/18/2013 11:15:57 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: oldbrowser

Our health care system is very advanced in technology.

However two things are radically wrong, and it is a very sick system which BO moved in to take advantage of like a parasite, and not to fix it.

Third party payer moved in, driving up costs and taking responsibility for health away from the individual and his and her family members.
Then the government moved in with medicare driving this system through the roof, and then providers ripped off the system out of control. This was discovered in the early eighties and massive cutbacks moved in, but by far not enough to save the system.

And our medical system is in no way a health care system. It is a sick care system It gives no credence to the patient, their family members, their true dignity, their health nor their quality of life.

It gives no allowance for preventive health care, pays lip service to nutrition and is turning into a pharmaceutical and high tech diagnostic and treatment brokerage.

If it were a healthy system, we would be a healthy culture/society. Our obesity rate is out of control. Most people are on pharmaceuticals, completely unable to care for themselves and their families with any confidence.

If you go to a good gym and talk to the trainer and look around, that is the direction for the future. They are very informed on proper nutrition.

Taking control of health, going to the doctor for catastrophy, and avoiding the same, is what used to be done. It had flaws, but we cannot afford this. Certainly not with the lack of good health apparent all around.

I went to a high school football game last week. I could faint thinking about the image of almost every woman at 200 pounds. WHAT! I look at photos of my family from the 20s through the ‘70s. No way was that kind of obesity acceptable. I remember some of those decades. No way were women nor men that obese.

Whatever overhaul we get from these guys, it has to include respect for privacy, I don’t care what it takes, we have a 4th amendment; it has to NOT entail redistribution of personal earnings.

If it goes radically in the direction of returning (returning) health decisions and care to the individual, then it will be heading in the right direction. But earners and the truly needy have to have catastrophic protection/insurance without our cost going up

If we are the best,and I suppose we can be, then we can figure out how to do that.


14 posted on 09/18/2013 11:40:27 PM PDT by stanne
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To: freeangel
Obamacare, a 2,700-page piece of legislation ..”Where've you been? That bill has grown to over 20,000 pages now - don't know how a bill can keep getting added to after it's passed - but noting new for this regime -

So, a bill 200 pages long - less than half a ream of paper - or one over 7' tall and growing?

BummerCare is much more about controlling and monitoring your evey move - and backing it up with fines and armed IRS agents than healthcare.

What kind of insanity - Is there/was there EVER a bill in history like this monstrosity?

15 posted on 09/18/2013 11:43:09 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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it is all about that. Mooch’s nutritional deal is all about telling kids their parents can’t properly care for them.

She’s married to a major narcissist. What does that make her?

I digress.

BO could not give any less of a care about anyone’s health.


16 posted on 09/18/2013 11:46:58 PM PDT by stanne
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The Democrats don’t want affordable health care, the scumbags want control.


17 posted on 09/18/2013 11:48:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: stanne
BO could not give any less of a care about anyone’s health.

For certain sure.

Nor anything else about AMerica or Americans - except to destroy us.

History shows that tyrants ultimately fall - and their ends are never peaceful. May history continue to repeat itself.

18 posted on 09/18/2013 11:50:14 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: neverdem

Scrap ObamaCare® first¡¡¡

No reason to muddle the waters with some New convoluted plan just so you can have bragging rights.

Idiots.

We don’t want to get a POD on a New plan.


19 posted on 09/19/2013 12:01:59 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: steve86

The current law is even more restrictive as to who gets the deduction. I think any GOP bill should phase out all health plan deductibility.


20 posted on 09/19/2013 12:13:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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