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Obama's Cream Puff Plan to Reform US Surveillance Program
Townhall.com ^ | August 11, 2013 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 08/11/2013 8:24:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Bobalu
The crap some spew about NSA being able to decode any encryption is pure baloney.

The don't have to work very hard if they are the ones who wrote the encryption product you're using.

21 posted on 08/11/2013 9:43:05 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Kaslin

Not a single thing will be changed. Some generalized talk about tightening standards to placate the masses, everything will be forgotten, and the program will go on as before and no doubt over time will become even more intrusive. Such is the world in which we live.


24 posted on 08/11/2013 9:49:26 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Kaslin

If the Feds gave a crap about security they would start instituting and enforcing standards within the DOD. As it stands, the Feds are getting their butts kicked by Anon and other hacker groups. That’s why they show up every year at Defcon and Blackhat groveling. The Secret Service has already embarrassed themselves by employing the most successful credit card hacker on the planet. He was operating right under their nose pulling off the biggest heist in history. Politicians and most businessmen are too ignorant to understand technology and have zero respect for security or IT outside of how it can make them money. My friend who works in a DOD industry told me all about how the execs dont follow security protocol. They just flaunt the rules because they are entitled and think they are special.

Meanwhile our Defense Industry has been hacked to pieces and our secrets stolen. The same will happen with the NSA databases and Obamacare. Soon harassment and blackmail will be the norm. The private details of our lives will be leaked, just like the IRS scandal, to our political opponents and nobody will be help accountable because the entire thing will be wrapped in secrecy.


26 posted on 08/11/2013 10:17:17 AM PDT by drunknsage
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To: Kaslin
Mish: Snowden is a hero.

Hmmm. 

Which bastion of free speech and individual sovereignty did Comrade Snowden, hero of der peoplez Useful Idiot revolution, head to again?

 

"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization".
 
It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
 
Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion.  Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science.  Members of parliament, representatives of business circles.  "
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2095202/posts
 
FAIL

27 posted on 08/11/2013 11:26:35 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: drunknsage
[nobody will be held accountable because the entire thing will be wrapped in secrecy.]


Yeah but, "It's about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs" so that's ok.

Ask your friend about the plethora of 7 figure projects in  fail mode... that nobody can talk about.

Juval Lowy told me he saw a report filled with pages and pages of them.

Fox, Mr. Charles E Fox - please come to the nearest secure tin can and string.

28 posted on 08/11/2013 11:40:25 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: The Duke; Bobalu
"The crap some spew about NSA being able to decode any encryption is pure baloney."

They can do so with remote control of systems using commercial, closed source operating systems--the most popular systems used in business and government offices.

"The don't have to work very hard if they are the ones who wrote the encryption product you're using."

That's why they keep saying that they have done just that--because they haven't (e.g., the official hoax about OpenBSD's ipsec years ago). Global corporates have allowed them to write back doors into the most popular, expensive, closed-source software though, or in some cases, done it themselves.


29 posted on 08/11/2013 2:07:04 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kaslin
"Mish: Snowden is a hero."

I disagree with that. [Yep. Changed my mind.] Snowden claimed to be getting a message out about loose cannon surveillance, but he probably released too many documents and too much information unnecessarily to be accomplishing only that.

Foreign nations don't need technical information about our nation's military intelligence methods. He could have simply said that surveillance was to broadly used against civilians (as others have). That would have been enough. But he probably went much further than that, and his comments did lean a little too far toward counter-culture speech in topics other than surveillance.


30 posted on 08/11/2013 2:16:12 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: freeangel
We need to forgive him for lying. He can't help it. All liberals lie. It comes natural to them

The forgive him for lying part was said with my fingers crossed behind my back

31 posted on 08/11/2013 2:39:56 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: All
The monstrous Obama govt we, the people, live under---is utterly capable of extraordinary crimes against its people.

<><> Benghazi do-nothing WRT slaughtered Americans

<><> Hillary's State Dept covers-up sex scandals---obstructs justice---scrubs investigations

<><> Holder's DOJ (labels journo Rosen a criminal--seizes AP dcumnts--snoops USSC/Congress' blackberries)

<><> IRS political targeting

<><> IRS steals 60 million private medical records

<><> HHS' Sibelius strong-arms Obamacare insurance providers for money

<><> secret NSA snooping

<><> IRS sending $45 Million/32,000 EITC refunds to illegals at ONE address.

<><> Snowden globe-trots w/ US secrets

<><> EPA uses phantom email accounts

<><> Holder's Fast and Furious gun-running; savage drug cartels kill two US border patrol agents

<><> 5 million Ohaha henchmen w/ top security clearance---Ntl security undermined

<><> govt wiretaps rose 71% last year alone

<><> O's drones shoot down Americans outside military parameters

<><> monstrous TSA travesties

<><> Solyndra and other green money-laundries

<><> sucking up to gays and other predator/perverts

<><> forces Boy Scouts to admit gays.

<><> Obamacare (and other laws) violated at will

<><> The Data Hub---HHS' database of personal info

<><> PP'hood profiteering---will control Data Hub

<><> forcing primitive populations w/ Third World loyalties on US taxpayers

<><> violating 2nd amendment rights

<><> empowering Planned Parnthood's abortion savagery

<><> PPhood genital-sniffers as O'Care navigator

<><> police state---monitoring license plates 24/7

<><> food foreign aid---EBT card abuse

<><> Obamas' non-stop luxe tax-pay vacays.

<><>DOJ advises Muslim council edgy social media posts violate civil rights/religious freedom---

<><> Boston bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev's inflammatory postings not mentioned

<><>DOJ asserts "global Christian terror" (?) rivals worldwide Islamic violence threats

<><> Obama orders shutdowns of coal-fired, electricity generating plants

<><> Big Brother-type surveillance/puniushments

<><> radical judges/Obama commissars hostile to 10th Amendment.

32 posted on 08/12/2013 5:03:51 AM PDT by Liz
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To: F15Eagle

Not sure he has documents for fear they will come back to bite him bet he has other keep them con men know all the loopholes.


33 posted on 08/12/2013 6:10:09 AM PDT by Vaduz
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