Posted on 08/10/2013 7:15:45 PM PDT by marktwain
With a .45 caliber legally strapped to his side, Jordan McManus decided to photograph the federal courthouse in Phoenix last night, realizing he would probably draw attention from police, especially after reading about Raymond Michaels experience last May.
But he was still a little surprised when a police helicopter hovered over him with a spotlight as two patrol cars pulled up next to him and another two cops approached him on foot.
They immediately tried to disarm him, but he refused to let them do it as it is legal to open carry in Arizona.
Then they tried to pat him down, which didnt make sense considering he was already showing a firearm. But he wouldnt let them do that either.
Youre carrying a firearm and taking a picture of a federal building, the cop exclaimed, trying to justify the pat down.
Then they demanded to know who he was, but didnt get anywhere with that either.
Here is a portion of the exchange:
Am I being detained right now? McManus asks.
Absolutely you are, yes, the cop responds.
You have reasonable suspicion that I committed a crime, right?
Well, Im concerned
Youre concerned. Are you detaining me?
I am, he says weakly.
Under the suspicion that I committed what crime?
I dont know yet. Youre not giving us any information.
And there you have the reason why police are always demanding to see peoples identification even though the people are not breaking the law. It gives them a hope that if they run your name through their system, they will find a bench warrant and have an excuse to arrest you.
(Excerpt) Read more at photographyisnotacrime.com ...
“A police state can be a safe place. It just isnt a place I want to live.”
Good, then get out of this country and move to a better police state. I’m sure Ed Snowden would give you a room in his apartment somewhere in the middle of that police state Russia. Snowden traded up, don’t you think?
“Isn’t” is a contraction for “is not”, and the phrase “is not a place I want to live” seems pretty self-explanatory, but you seem to have misunderstood — I do NOT want to live in a police state.
And if you want to live in a police state, I would suggest that you might be the one who could consider finding one somewhere — there are a lot of them, but the United States of America is NOT a police state, we have a constitution that is supposed to guarantee that we are not subjected to a police state, and when we ARE subjected to one, we have a 2nd amendment that is supposed to make sure we can take our country back from the police state.
I will not trade liberty for security. If I had my way, the TSA would be defunded, and every couple of years a plane would blow up, but 10 million people would NOT be subject to an unreasonable search.
On the other hand, you can go live in a place where the police can come into your home and search it anytime they want — because if you pay enough taxes, and hire enough police, and they stop every person on the street, search every home, enforce a 11pm curfew, ban pictures at night, and confiscate all the guns, you will probably be marginally safer.
Open carry is legal in Arizona, but it is not common. I’ve never seen someone doing open carry in town, unless they were heading out to the boonies...
A prison is safe?
I was under the other impression, thanks
Would you like to see more interior and exterior shots of the courthouse from the Internet?
I found some images from aircraft and architectural stuff too!
“And heaven help you if someday you need the help of a cop or they get your *ss out of the wringer. I personally would leave your *ss in the wringer, just for chuckles and to make a meaningless point.”
I, however, will have no difficulty in helping a police officer when they need it.
I suspect that you are not, and never have been, a peace officer.
It seems like a prison COULD be safe. It suffers from being populated with criminals, and therefore having no underlying resistance to criminal activity, and being “policed” by what some might consider a slightly less-capable class of officers, who also probably don’t really care to keep the criminals safe.
But a police state also is a false sense of security. Apparently, some people will be shocked when the next terrorist successfully attacks our country, because they seem to believe that harassing people who take pictures actually will stop terror attacks.
The new GOPe campaign slogan?
You must not have read or believe in your own tagline! Seems kinda contradictory of you to bash this guy if you ask me!
It is viewed as a welcome relief to hours of boredom that strains the soul.
Many have comment on police work as 99.9% boredom punctuated by .1 percent sheer terror. This type of event is neither, and is welcome relief to the boredom. It will be talked about by the police involved for years, as an amusing anecdote.
You forgot 0.2% dog target practice. :-)
If we took everything the left offered, this country would be one big prison
Gee! My first thought was that it was a special effects in a sci-fi movie.
“It will be talked about by the police involved for years, as an amusing anecdote.”
Yeah, right. You’re delusional.
“Don’t like it...Get out of this country and move to a better police state
The new GOPe campaign slogan?”
You go with him.
Yeah, right. Youre delusional.
Any other former officers care to chime in? Will it be talked about as an amusing anecdote or not?
You should have T-shirts made, and head to D.C....
You'll make big bucks.
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