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Gay Couple to Sue Church of England to Force It to Perform Gay Weddings (Coming soon to America?)
Pajamas Media ^ | 08/02/2013 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 08/02/2013 8:38:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: sassy steel magnolia

I understand, but I never said “blessed by the church” I said blessed by government.

I’ve read words like “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s”

To me, such a ceremony falls within that statement. It does not condone nor bless the union required by Caesar.

By executing the “ceremony” the Caesar-ordered action is accomplished, but it doesn’t necessarily mean ‘blessed’...a court cannot mandate that. Were it to think it could, it would be an outright declaration of war on religion. Emotion and heartfelt religion cannot be mandated by tyrants.


21 posted on 08/02/2013 9:07:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Why would they have to sue what’s left of Henry’s Church to get them to allow Gay “marriage?” What’s this world coming to?


22 posted on 08/02/2013 9:10:51 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Tax-chick

Sadly, you are right. Only they disguise them as legitimate adoptions.


23 posted on 08/02/2013 9:12:28 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Let's not obsess about the gays; let's just strengthen normal marriage across the board," some say. But no, you won't be able to. Because of the new LGBT definitions of "invidious discrimination" and "hate speech," it will be unlawful to organize any activity or service in support of specifically gender-normal kids, man-woman marriage or mom-dad families. Examples of what you won't be allowed to do:

• “straight” boys’ or girls’ activity group (like Boy Scouts)
• a marriage-oriented dating service (like e-Harmony)
• religious wedding venue (like Methodist Ocean Grove)
• an adoption program (like Catholic Social Services)
• ethical/spiritual counseling (like by an Armed Forces chaplain)
• a counseling program supporting kids’ natural sex/gender identity (like NARTH)


The above examples show activities already shut down or forced to incorporate the LGBT sex/gender perspective by lawsuits or discrimination laws.

Anything at all related to gender-normal child development, relationships, courtship, weddings, family-building, fertility, adoption, ANYTHING...if you don’t rewrite your program content to affirm the LGBT gender perspective, mark my words, they will take you to court, and shut you down.

Even many "conservatives"--- even many pastors--- only find the LGBT thing mildly nonsensical. Silly. Or merely transiently obnoxious. They do NOT know the totalizing nature of the coercion we are facing.

24 posted on 08/02/2013 9:12:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Cleanse my heart, O Lord, and teach me an anger which is exact and just.")
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To: Vigilanteman

I think I read these were rental-womb births, so they may be the biological offspring of one of the men.


25 posted on 08/02/2013 9:13:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: Tax-chick

That’s even sicker. Just when I think these perverts can’t possibly plumb any lower . . .


26 posted on 08/02/2013 9:14:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

California courts, iirc, ruled that insurance must cover assisted reproduction services for homosexual couples, because the fact that their couplings do not result in children shows they are “infertile.”

Crazy days ...


27 posted on 08/02/2013 9:16:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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28 posted on 08/02/2013 9:20:10 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Churches should say they only perform ceremonies of Holy Matrimony for members in good standing.

Practicing homos would not meet that criteria.

29 posted on 08/02/2013 9:22:51 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve seen this movie before except Henry VIII was in it.

At least he was pushing for a hetero (unholy) marriage.

Time to start a new religion.


30 posted on 08/02/2013 9:23:55 AM PDT by moovova (Sell everything, folks. Be poised to run.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This one’s simple.Any clergyman...or group of clergymen...who wish not to perform “marriages” that are recognized as such under the legal definition of the word...can simply surrender,clearly,officially and formally,his/her powers to do so and,after having done so,modify their “holy matrimony” ceremony to be in keeping with their *faith* but not in keeping with legal requirements.Then,these clergymen can say to a pervert couple “I *can* not perform a marriage that’s legally recognized by the government and I *will* not perform any kind of religious ceremony that blesses your “union”.


31 posted on 08/02/2013 9:25:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just as I predicted years ago. They will not stop until churches are forced to comply.


32 posted on 08/02/2013 9:29:52 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Gaffer

the church should sanction and perform the marriage.

The opening statement by the Priest/Pastor should be “The church is illegally forced to perform this UNHOLY union.”

The Priest/Pastor should then say “This unholy union is blessed by Government and condemned by God.”

Wrapping it up, “I unwillingly pronounce you Man and Man in damnation.”

Your comment makes me realize that having the pastor of church sign a marriage certificate would not be enough. They would not be happy until the pastor will recite the exact words that they would demand.


33 posted on 08/02/2013 9:32:56 AM PDT by MNDude (The system worked!)
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To: Tax-chick

More recent family pic here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2114265/First-gay-couple-fathers-UK-open-surrogacy-centre-sex-couples.html

Doesn’t the surro-daughter look amazingly happy?


34 posted on 08/02/2013 9:33:15 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Wow, looks like she’d take your leg right off, doesn’t she? One angry girl.


35 posted on 08/02/2013 9:35:07 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: Black Agnes

The Drewitt-Barlows were the first British homosexual couple to be named on their children's birth certificates
36 posted on 08/02/2013 9:40:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: jeffc

RE: Churches should say they only perform ceremonies of Holy Matrimony for members in good standing.

Is Queen Elizabeth still a member in good standing in the Church of England?


37 posted on 08/02/2013 9:41:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
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38 posted on 08/02/2013 9:53:39 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now that Christianity is all but destroyed in England, I wonder if these gays will demand the muzzie population support them as well?


39 posted on 08/02/2013 10:37:33 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: SeekAndFind

And gays wonder why many hate them. This will only make them more unpopular.


40 posted on 08/02/2013 10:38:19 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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