Posted on 07/07/2013 6:52:15 AM PDT by Innovative
As Michael Mukasey, the former federal judge and attorney general, wrote in another context: The Constitution and US laws are not a treaty with the universe; they protect US citizens.
So it is with our foreign policy. The first goal is to protect Americas security and interests. Everything else is second.
That formula explains why Mohammed Morsis election doesnt trump other all other considerations. After all, Hamas won an election in Gaza, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won two elections in Iran. Hitler was elected, and so was Saddam Hussein.
Elections in police-state societies can be a step in the right direction, or they can be used as a blank check to further entrench power by a ruling elite aiming for dictatorial authority. Morsi was definitely in that camp.
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Just remember, Jimmy Carter enabled radical Islam and terrorism by not supporting the Shah of Iran and thus allowed radical Islam/terrorism a foothold in the Middle East. And Obama was doing the same thing by NOT supporting the uprising against the Islamist government Iran, while meddling in Egypt, resulting in the Muslim Brotherhood taking over the country.
Can we get the Egyptian military to fix our dicktatership too?
Carter’s idiocy will affect the world for centuries, and so will Obama’s I fear.
I’m frankly tired of hearing this “islamist” crap at free republic as if there was a huge difference between the Morsi supporters and his opposition. The simple fact is that Egypt is 90% or more islamic and will always have an islamist government.
The real damage was done when Obama and his leftist allies stirred “revolution” against Mubarak.
If we’re going to fall into this bad muslim vs “good” muslim trap as conservatives, we are finished. There will be no secular government in Egypt.
There IS a huge difference between the Muslim Brotherhood and the rest. Mubarak kept the country stable and now hopefully the Army will ensure the same. The goal of radical Islam IS to literally rule the world and kill everyone who is not willing to live by their rules.
If you think about it, all these people will ever have is a dictator. When they finally get democracy, the first thing they do is implement a tolitarian state that punishes its enemies.
Democracy is perhaps one of the most mischievous pranks ever pulled on the psyches of humanity in history. The concept SOUNDS good, giving the right to all people to decide the form of government they shall have, but democracy has been one of the most abused of terms in just about every language.
First of all, in any group of two or more, there will always be more opinions than mutual agreements, and to some folk, these opinions trump agreement every time. So democracy does not work with people who take it upon themselves to be disagreeable by nature. So how do we either exclude them, or minimize their negativity? Enter the draconian policies of Strongman Rule, in which the will of one or a very few is substituted for the consensus of the many, and the disagreeable people are systematically shut out or silenced, by whatever means deemed most practical and quickest. But what if the Strongman IS the disagreeable people, what recourse does the multitude have? That partly depends on what measures the Strongman has taken to prevent insurrections and potential threat to himself. If the Strongman has been lax, sometimes only the threat of rebellion is necessary, and he flees, leaving at least a temporary vacuum at the leadership post. But if the Strongman runs true to character, the only end game is somebody (or a lot of somebodies) to be carried out feet first or dead.
I rather suspect the second version is what this country is going to have to face within the next decade.
We know that. But tell us what you think of the situation in Egypt?
The stable nations within Islam have had to be ruled by brutal dictators, and with good reason.
Once again, the real leaders of that country (the army) stepped in and took charge. Generals are not elected, so why call it Democracy?
At least they didn't shoot Morsi down in the street, like Sadat...
Exactly. John Bolton makes the point that the opposition wasn’t so much opposed to Morsi’s radicalism as they were to the fact that he ignored the economy to pursue his radical agenda. In fact, many of the opposition factions make the brotherhood look tame.
Lets not forget, the “good” muslims were the ones doing the raping this time just like the “freedom seeking Muslims” were doing during the protests to oust Mubarak.
At this point only a military dictatorship will keep Egypt stable and that will fail as soon as we stop paying the ransom.
The people have to rise up first...and so far...I don’t see any of that happening.
It’s not a free and democratic society if their is state limited individual liberty. If that state also happens to be ruled by a religion which runs opposite freedom to associate, worship, assemble, speak, and self defense, it’s not worth stepping foot there. That goes for commerce, tourism, investment, or aide.
You’re right, creek. They are all a bunch of brain-damaged, inbred goons and if I didn’t care about the Sphinx and the pyramids I would say: goodbye and no good luck!
AMEN!
But, you know ole Jimmah must have the strongest internal character the world has ever seen because every airport, every train station, restaurant, or public place he’s seen in people are bound to just laugh in his face and call him an idiot to his face. Imagine having to put up with that the rest of your life. No wonder we never see his wife. Excuse me, I forgot her name.......thankfully. Now if I could only forget Jimmy!
My son said yesterday the military owns 40% of the industry in Egypt, so that might be a motivating factor.
Stop the Ransom, let the shooting begin and, as my favorite political spokesman recently said “let Allah sort em out”.
Apparently you haven’t been following the Live Egypt threads much. A lot of urban Egyptians hate Islamic law and the MB, not because they are more radical, but because they clearly want a secular government.
You should read up.
Actually I follow John Bolton.
Its no wonder America is so screwed with the low info voters on both sides of the aisle. Throw in the utter lack of moral courage and we don’t stand a chance.
Hitler and Mussolini were both elected public officials before they took power/had a coup, resp.
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