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To: Yosemitest

Interesting, I could see the challenge with new controllers.

The diverging data points of the two flights I reference seems to be here:

Today:

37.5730 -122.2660 299° West 187 215 2,200 -1,080 Descending

AF84 4 days ago:

37.5790 -122.2790 300° West 187 215 1,600 -1,200

Same place, same speed. But 600’ more altitude today.

A few more data points down AA is basically at same position AF landing from 4 days ago. But AA’s speed keeps dropping well below the 145 kts that AF maintains and AA is continues to drop with a higher rate of decent.

AA Today:

37.6016 -122.3340 297° West 141 162 600 -1,320 Descending

AF:

37.6020 -122.3360 296° West 145 167 600 -840 Descending

In layman’s terms was this simply a sharp over-correction that could not be adjusted again once he reached the correct profile? i.e. he put it in a stall to fix the 600’ extra altitude but could not stop it once the correction was done?


758 posted on 07/06/2013 9:55:02 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: bluecat6
Do you think it might have been a "Wing-Slide" or "Wing-Slip" to drop a lot of altitude fast?
You know, where the pilot drops one wing, then crabs into it until close to the altitude he wants, then kicks the rudder to come out of it?
759 posted on 07/06/2013 10:23:40 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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